Daniel--

Implementation on a Windoze box with IIS will surely make the NT token
passing much easier than what you are faced with.

Since you are a 'nux box, your best battle field would be the app server --
Tomcat, rather than the OS. There's a lot of Tomcat based NTLM or AD
authentication done and you should be able to google and find a bunch of
examples.

Sounds like its time for you to roll up your sleeves and start putting some
.jsp pages in that sacred "/cps/" directory.

Have fun.

Henry Lu

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Henry,
>
> thank you very much for your post. It was not my intention to sound
> off the import method. I think it works wonderful, but the data in our
> AD is very inconsistent (maintained by a lot of people in different
> locations during some years now). So not the import method is my
> problem (of course), but the fact that the user management of
> LiveServer handles the user names case sensitive (combined with the
> fact that we have "bad" data :) ). Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody
> will ever be so mad and have a user john.doe and a John.Doe for two
> different persons.
>
> The point I think is in between the two steps you described. Mr. John
> Doe is imported as John.Doe, but likes to authenticate as john.doe. So
> LiveServer does take this as a "new" user.
>
> But your point about the NT Challenge/Response process sounds very
> interesting to me, because it would be even better if users don't have
> to enter a username/password. Where do I find some more details about
> setting this up for LiveServer (on a debian/tomcat/mysql combination)?
>
> Kind regards,
> Daniel
>
> On 7 Apr., 15:07, "Henry Lu a.k.a. Javahand" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Daniel--
> >
> > Something sounds a little off on your "import" method.
> >
> > The connector to AD should be able to import users -- on basis of desired
> > filtration -- directly from AD repository on scheduled basis. So whatever
> > case the username is stored, it gets imported verbatim into to LiveServer
> > user directory.
> >
> > Further, authentication of a user can be against AD directly. Once a user
> is
> > already authenticated, the proper method should be just to log the user
> in
> > using the "trusted" dynament. *
> >
> > In my afore-prescribed scenario, whatever John Joe chooses to type in, as
> > long as AD OK's it, LiveServer goes along and just keeps on copy of John
> > Joe's profile originally imported from AD.
> >
> > Let me know if this makes sense to you.
> >
> > Henry Lu, a.k.a. Javahand
> >
> > P.S.: * I believe the NT Challenge/Response process pushes the AD-stored
> > username (with case integrity from AD repository) into the browser
> session,
> > thus guaranteeing a case match between the browser-carried username and
> > LiveServer stored username.
> >
> > Of course, if you are using the user-typed username from the form, you
> are
> > at the risk of a mis-match.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hey guys,
> >
> > > we are facing the issue that when logging on to the OT Delievery
> > > Server (former LiveServer) the username and password is case
> > > sensitive. For passwords this seems normal, but our users have
> > > problems with typing the username case sensitive. We authenticate the
> > > users via a Directory Server connector in a MS Active Directory and
> > > import them after a correct login. That means AD authenticates all
> > > users correctly nevertheless if he is spelled john.doe, John.doe,
> > > JOhn.dOE, and so on, so he is imported to the local user directory.
> > > And so there are a lot of duplicated that don't have consistent groups
> > > as there are some groups maintained in the Delievery Server User
> > > database.
> >
> > > The point is we imported a lot of users through the connector and the
> > > user names of these where not consistent, either. So the "simple
> > > solution" to have a toLower() function at the login form, will not
> > > work.
> >
> > > I already contacted the support a while ago and they said this
> > > behaviour will not be changed in the future. Did someone have the same
> > > problem and maybe had an idea how to solve this?
> >
> > > Any help is appreciated.
> > > Thanks a lot,
> > > Daniel
> >
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