All of that can be done using .net at a fraction of the cost/time and with a wealth of .net developers & resources at the ready, liveserver is very specialised and has a limited number of people willing to program against it (props to you henry for doing so).
We found that the google mini box was far more powerful and configuable than verity aswell. On Jun 9, 3:53 pm, "Henry Lu a.k.a. Javahand" <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not pro-LiveServer or anything. So I am not advising anyone to buy > LiveServer but for poeple who have bought LiveServer, I see many pluses to > use it. > > LiveServer is mainly designed as an XML based content engine. If you happen > to have structured an XML project variant in your RedDot CMS, it is breeze > to let LiveServer digest your CMS-generated content and deliver them > personalized. > > The other benefit of LiveServer is the embedded Verity search engine. It is > an OEM version but nonetheless commercial grade. It completes the neat > coupling of CMS and personalized content delivery as all XML tags can be > interpreted as database field and explicit or implicit search can be > conducted using SQL syntax. > > And the LDAP connector allows you to use your AD or other LDAP to manage > site user base and implement SSO fairly reliably and easily. > > I am well aware of the hostility toward LiveServer in the RedDot community. > But I have done projects whereby LiveServer was designed to deliver targeted > content to a .NET application, and LiveServer was designed to ingest content > generated from Drupal; I've also done projects whereby LiveServer has to > intereact with ConstantContact API and one whereby LiveServer has to deliver > product search result en masse (and the caching mechanism of LiveServer > proved to be robust enough). > > The biggest, yet a bit intagible benefit of LiveServer is that the task of > content "organization" can be delegated to LiveServer instead of fighting > the uphill battle inside RedDot CMS. Many hot topics on this board, such as > pagination, show and hide ans etc can be implemented in LiveServer with a > fraction of the effort you'd put when doing it inside CMS. I always tell my > client, "CMS is a workshop, treat it as a laundry chute and let LiveServer > handle the presentation logic on the live site." > > So I really have nothing to hate about LiveServer except when a customer > wants to build a social community out of LiveServer. That is the moment I > absolutely jump out of LiveServer. The so-called LiveServer WebComponents > cutely named as Wiki, Forum and etc are just no more than a joke. > > And I think OpenText is admitting it now bacuase it is shipping Vignette > components to customers who have bought those WebComponents now. > > So my conclusion? YMMV. If you are humble enough to go through the > documentation, you will learn to set up a LiveServer installation and find > most built-in features handy and easy. If you expect to use LiveServer's > proprietary Dynament API in the same fashion you have learnt and are using > as .NET, PHP or Java, you will hate LiveServer immediately. > > Henry Lu, a.k.a., Javahand > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:09 AM, TonyGayter <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > My advise is to not use it. We have used it once and regret it. Its a > > pain to learn and use. As far as I remember its around 25k which is > > far to much. My advise would be to just integrate .net into the site > > and use a google box for the search, only a couple of grand then. Far > > cheaper and a better alternative. (.Net also works wihtin smartedit if > > done properly which live server doesnt.) > > > On Jun 9, 10:56 am, bobbykjack <[email protected]> wrote: > > > LiveServer is a content delivery application, which offers some of the > > > scripting capabilities of a language such as PHP. It also provides > > > some of the features that a web server offers. > > > > Our use of it is very minimal (and I've always been tempted to remove > > > it from our 'stack') - almost entirely restricted to internal search. > > > However, the results we've seen from that search function are less > > > than perfect, to say the least. It's also difficult (if not > > > impossible) to combine LiveServer and PHP, so if you have a page that > > > needs to contain PHP script, it has to bypass LiveServer. > > > > My big beef with LiveServer is that it's yet another language to learn > > > (one which only a tiny number of people will ever know, compared to > > > something like PHP) and it's nowhere near as flexible as a 'normal' > > > scripting language. > > > > Having said that, I've recently identified another potential use which > > > I'm just about to post about ... > > > > - Bobby > > > > On Jun 9, 1:16 am, gk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > We've been using the RedDot CMS V9 for 12 months now but we had a > > > > limited budget at the time we bought it and so we don't have > > > > Liveserver - in fact Liveserver was never even mentioned by our > > > > supplier. I'm just wondering if someone can tell me what Liveserver > > > > actually does and whether it's worth thinking about adding it to our > > > > setup? > > > > > Also, a very rough idea of the cost would be appreciated as I don't > > > > want to initiate any sales discussions until I know whether it might > > > > be totally out of our price range.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RedDot CMS Users" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<reddot-cms-users%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/reddot-cms-users?hl=en. > > -- > 646-807-8683- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. 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