Date: Nov 23 2000 07:40:54 EST
From: "Kevison Dennys Carrilho Bentes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [redewan] SubNetting

Oi Gilson,

Veja em: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc950.html

RFC 950                                                      August 1985
Internet Standard Subnetting Procedure

      For example, the Internet address might be interpreted as:

         <network-number><subnet-number><host-number>

      where the <network-number> field is as defined by IP [3], the
      <host-number> field is at least 1-bit wide, and the width of the
      <subnet-number> field is constant for a given network.  No further
      structure is required for the <subnet-number> or <host-number>
      fields.  If the width of the <subnet-number> field is zero, then
      the network is not subnetted (i.e., the interpretation of [3] is
      used).

      For example, on a Class B network with a 6-bit wide subnet field,
      an address would be broken down like this:

                           1                   2                   3
       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |1 0|        NETWORK            |  SUBNET   |    Host Number    |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

      Since the bits that identify the subnet are specified by a
      bitmask, they need not be adjacent in the address.  However, we
      recommend that the subnet bits be contiguous and located as the
      most significant bits of the local address.

      Special Addresses:

         From the Assigned Numbers memo [9]:

            "In certain contexts, it is useful to have fixed addresses
            with functional significance rather than as identifiers of
            specific hosts.  When such usage is called for, the address
            zero is to be interpreted as meaning "this", as in "this
            network".  The address of all ones are to be interpreted as
            meaning "all", as in "all hosts".  For example, the address
            128.9.255.255 could be interpreted as meaning all hosts on
            the network 128.9.  Or, the address 0.0.0.37 could be
            interpreted as meaning host 37 on this network."

         It is useful to preserve and extend the interpretation of these
         special addresses in subnetted networks.  This means the values
         of all zeros and all ones in the subnet field should not be
         assigned to actual (physical) subnets.

            In the example above, the 6-bit wide subnet field may have
            any value except 0 and 63.

RFC 950                                                      August 1985
Internet Standard Subnetting Procedure

         Please note that there is no effect or new restriction on the
         addresses of hosts on non-subnetted networks.



Grato.



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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: [redewan] SubNetting


> Lista de Discuss�o Rede Wan - http://www.networkdesigners.com.br
>
> Colegas:
>
> Conversando com alguns colegas a respeito do uso de sub-redes atrav�s do
uso de
> m�scaras, verifiquei que sempre, � ignorada a primeira e �ltima sub-rede
do
> range das poss�veis.
> Pelas informa��es que obtive, o pessoal justifica este fato que est�
descrito
> em uma RFC.
> A quest�o �: Qual � a RFC onde explica/detalha esta quest�o de n�o se usar
a
> primeira e �ltima sub-redes ??
>
> Me parece que alguns fabricantes de roteadores permitem esta implementa��o
como
> a CISCO onde voc� pode definir um par�metro denominado IP_SUBNET 0.
>
> Algu�m conhece outros fabricantes de routers que permitem esta fun��o ???
>
> Grato pela aten��o,
>
> Gilson Cesar
> Analista de Suporte T�cnico
> HSBC - Bank Brasil S/A.
>
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