I agree, you really need to know the CL before using some kind of GUI. I am coming to the RH Linux world from HP-UX. With HP we have a tool called SAM that makes SysAdmin duties easy. I always try to use it for as little as possible and have become pretty fluent at the CL. Now that I'm learning RH Linux, I use Webmin to help with what I don't know yet as I learn all the CL options. I always feel better when I can eliminate another need for webmin. Once you have a firm grasp on SysAdmin duties, WebMin is great to perform usually tedious duties quickly. I love the IP Tables module. I've tried it from the command line, but it is much simpler in Webmin. Thanks for reading my two cents.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:48 PM Subject: RE: Anyone try Webmin? > On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 22:26, Michael Kalus wrote: > > Yes and no. > > > > The main problem I see with things like Webmin is that they remove the > > "user" from the real system. If they don't have Webmin available later when > > something is wrong they might not be able to fix the problem. > > > > Granted, I grew up on Command Line and even though I have (and use) Webmin I > > rather still have people go back to the command line, also in the line of > > work in the past when I had Junior SysAdmins who relied way too much on the > > GUI instead of figuring out how to do it on the CLI. > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > Michael > > It does have it's purposes. If you're administering a number of machines > and you already know what you're doing, it saves time and energy. If > you're a "noob" it IS rather "dumbing" as it's always better for "noobs" > to get a firm understanding from the "ground up". For those in a hurry > to get something up and running NOW, it's also great. > > I utilise it for clients when I don't want to travel - on the other > hand, when I want to travel and be onsite, then I do everything by hand > - which, of course, justifies the "paid by the hour" bit. > > It is rather magical in some senses as you can, for instance, add a > printer to a server or a workstation remotely - the users ALL OF A > SUDDEN have this new printer up and running and printing after only a > few minutes of time...or, utilising it to blow out crap from the > outbound SENDMAIL queue...or utilising it to add a user to a particular > workstation on at a site... > > (Yet another tool to prove to the M$'ers that linux ain't quite as hard > to maintain or administer as the FUD says it is...) > > -- > Fri Jun 6 08:40:00 EST 2003 > 08:40:00 up 1 day, 9:33, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.17, 0.21 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > | __ __ |kuhn media australia | > | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | > | .\__/ || | | |================================| > | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | > | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 > Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > > I don't have any solution but I certainly admire the problem. > -- Ashleigh Brilliant > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
