On 16 Jan 2001, Trond Eivind Glomsrød spewed into the bitstream:
TEG>"Greg Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TEG>
TEG>> Well because the very guys who help out on lists like this are some of the
TEG>> ones who help shape and make the LPI what it is, which is aimed at
TEG>> providing quality Certification for the Linux Community
TEG>
TEG>Actually, on this list the people helping out and developing are more
TEG>likely to have anything to do with RHCE...
I won't argue the point... I'll just let folks speak for themselves but
there are more than a handful of people on this list who support LPI in
some form or fashion.
TEG>LPI seems to have ties with Caldera and a very fuzzy "community"
TEG>bond. Now, it may be a good exam[1] but I don't seing it being a
TEG>"community" thing.
TEG>
TEG>[1] I haven't tried either
I don't want to seem overly critical of these comments but frankly, you
do not know what you're talking about (though I'd expect a RH employee
to toe the party line and nothing less :-). What is this "fuzzy
community bond" you speak of?
Since Greg Wright (the fellow who's comments you're disagreeing with) is
the volunteer coordinator of LPI's international group and on the board
of the Embedded Linux Consortium (actually he's the board Vice President
representing the independent developers and small vendors
URL:http://www.embedded-linux.org/organization.php3), I think he's
qualified to make a determination and have an opinion as to
whether LPI is a community based organization or not. I'd also trust
LI's judgement about that and I think it's very interesting to note who
paid for LPI's, on site, testing center in Chicago last spring...
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-05-05-006-04-NW
http://www.lpi.org/lbechicago2000.html
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-04-07-001-05-NW-CY
I also know that Maddog Hall and John Terpstra both took an LPI exam at
that show I was there and took pictures of them registering for the
exam... it was fun! Have they taken the RHCE? Certainly they're
considered members of the Linux community... yes?
As to LPI's "ties with Caldera" (You speak as though somehow having a
relationship with Caldera is a subtly damning point! Is there something
wrong with that if we're a community organization?) if you look here:
http://www.lpi.org/a-sponsors.html
you can see that Caldera is a platinum sponsor of LPI (platinum denotes
a minimum 50K contribution), but so are IBM, TurboLinux, SUSE, Maxspeed,
Linuxcare and SGI. I think it's important to note that if you scan the
page there, you will see that your company, Red Hat, is *not* an LPI
sponsor at any level (and interestingly, my little tiny company,
MoonGroup.com, which provides the searchable archives for this list at
it's own expense... *IS* a sponsor of LPI but I suppose that MoonGroup
is *not* a part of the Linux "community"?) and they've been asked...
I know they have because I did the asking! Now this might lead some to
question who is and who is not a part of the global Linux community...
but that is just my own opinion after having devoted almost 4 years of
my life to making LPI a reality (URL: http://www.lpi.org/a-board.html)
am I *not* considered a member of the Linux community?
I could go on about our "fuzzy community bond" but I won't... I don't
think it's all that damn fuzzy!
Here's a Caveat!
Here is something *not* to do with this email:
Do *NOT* interpret this note or construe it to somehow think that I have
something against Red Hat, I don't. In my opinion Red Hat makes the best
Linux distribution available in the world today and I have a lot of
friends inside the organization.
However, I *DO* believe that Red Hat has made a mistake in its dealings
with LPI and it pains me that after all that's been done and said
(information which you undoubtedly were not privy to and that's not your
fault) the mistakes are still being made!
--
Chuck Mead, Owner, MoonGroup.com
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