Hi Kevin,

On Thursday, November 29, 2001, 1:10:12 AM, you babbled something about:

KM> That aside, I am wondering why the major distributions stick with
KM> software like wu-ftpd, which have such poor security records, when
KM> better alternatives exist, e.g.:

Licenses, commonality, familiarity, stuff like that. License being one of
the most important.

KM> postfix instead of sendmail

Sendmail is the most common mail server available. There is no lack of
documentation. It has also been doing "better" than in the past. Postfix
also just had a significant DoS against it as well and with it's increasing
popularity, it may soon see more action on that front. Though I like it, I
still tend to stick with Sendmail.

Postfix also is not GPL. It is under the IBM Public License. If you read it,
you could see that there are certain provisions for commercial distribution.
While they wouldn't stop you from distributing it, there are some interesting
clauses that lawyers may be able to use against someone. Though I would not
know how chancy that is, RH (and others) may have lawyers that recommend
against it.

KM> proftpd instead of wu-ftpd

I agree here completely. It is GPL. It is easier to configure. And WU has
just never gotten this thing right. Mandrake Linux has started shipping this
as the default. I hope RH follows that one.

KM> I know these can be installed after the fact, but why aren't they part
KM> of the default install?  Isn't it asking for trouble to stick with
KM> insecure software?  

It is much more trouble to face license and other legal issues. The GPL
protects from most legal action (like most other licenses do) and has no
restrictions on distribution.

If you follow OpenBSD at all, you would see that they are pulling packages
out of their system and out of their "ports" collections for license issues
left and right. It is really getting much trickier to do all this stuff now
that Linux is so in the public eye and there are companies that would
quickly rat a distro out for violations if they think it would hurt Linux's
stance in the market.

Plus when was the last time you saw M$ get hurt by including insecure
software? It also works for Linux sometimes (like wu-ftpd, sendmail, etc.).

KM> p.s.  is there a decent replacement for bind that djb doesn't own?

IMHO, Bind 9 hasn't seemed too bad. It is actually a complete rewrite and
they took their time to make it. Since it is running all of the biggest name
servers on the net, I think they are finally taking it seriously. Especially
since they were paid to make sure that it should be secure.

Have fun,
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