I do understand all that. But putting it aside, it's still a fair offer from a baseball perspective.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: > Real world $8M would suffice for a legacy to ur family. It's an ego thing > for sports figures (and devil on his shoulder telling him he's worth more). > > Sent from Larry's iPhone > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > In a nasty recession, no less. But again, these guys don't exist in the > real world. > > -- Matt > > --- On *Thu, 1/29/09, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Varitek > To: <[email protected]>[email protected] > Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 4:54 PM > > This sound like a cliche complaint, but.... > How the hell is $8 million over two years insulting? > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley > <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Mazz chimes in: >> >> >> <http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/> >> < Back to Front >> Page<http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/>Text >> size >> *–* *+* >> Varitek, Sox in stare >> down<http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/01/varitek_sox_in.html> >> Email|Link<http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/01/varitek_sox_in.html> >> |Comments >> (0)<http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/01/varitek_sox_in.html#comments> >> Posted >> by Tony Massarotti, Globe Staff January 29, 2009 04:24 PM >> With less than 24 hours remaining before a deadline set by the team, the >> Red Sox and catcher Jason Varitek seem caught in a stare down that could >> very well produce an unhappy ending for both the player and club. >> According to a baseball source, the deadline by which Varitek must accept >> or decline the Red Sox' latest contract offer is set for tomorrow morning, >> leaving less than a day for the matter to play out. According to the same >> source, Varitek is very seriously considering the option of sitting out the >> 2009 season and/or retiring rather than accepting the contract offer made to >> him last week. >> In that proposal, the Red Sox gave Varitek the choice of a one-year >> contract for a guaranteed $5 million or a one-year deal for $5 million with >> a vesting option. In the latter scenario, Varitek would earn another $5 >> million if the team exercises the option for 2010, $3 million if an option >> is exercised by the player. >> Though Varitek appears to have no other suitors at this time, it would not >> be unprecedented for him to sit out (or retire) until he receives an offer >> to his liking. With agent Scott Boras advising him at that time, too, >> Varitek sat out an entire year after being drafted in the first round by the >> Minnesota Twins in 1993. He then re-entered the draft and was selected by >> the Seattle Mariners in 1994, who eventually signed the player. >> Even then, Varitek did not play a minor-league game until 1995, meaning >> that his stance might very well have cost him two years of his development. >> Should Varitek reject the Red Sox' offer, the team will have little choice >> but to walk away given the finality with which this offer was presented to >> the player. The Sox then would likely go to spring training with a catching >> platoon of the switch-hitting Josh Bard (better from the right side) and the >> lefthanded-hitting George Kottaras. The righthanded-hitting Dusty Brown also >> would be in camp. >> Independent of the Varitek negotiations, the Sox are expected to revisit >> talks with the Texas Rangers and Arizona Diamondbacks about respective deals >> for the switch-hitting Jarrod Saltalamacchia and the lefthanded-hitting >> Miguel Montero. >> The switch-hitting Saltlalamacchia is regarded as having far better >> offensive upside but comes with major questions defensively. Montero is >> looked upon as a more balanced player and the more likely acquisition by >> trade, according to another baseball source, and presumably would displace >> Kottaras given that he bats from the left side. >> There is the possibility, of course, that Boras and Varitek are >> threatening to reject the offer merely as a way of leveraging the Red Sox >> into a more desirable agreement given the approaching deadline. >> >> >> --- On *Thu, 1/29/09, Ray Salemi >> <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Ray Salemi >> <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Varitek >> To: >> <http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 4:43 PM >> >> >> Yeah. >> >> What he said. >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley >> <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Which isn't to say leadership and game management aren't valuable. You >>> just don't overpay for a guy doesn't hit because he's a good game manager. >>> >>> >>> - Matt >>> >>> --- On *Thu, 1/29/09, Ray Salemi >>> <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> [email protected]>* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Ray Salemi >>> <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Varitek >>> To: >>> <http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> [email protected] >>> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 4:19 PM >>> >>> Hitting is good. >>> >>> "Leadership" and "Game Management" are highly overrated. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Steve Ouellette >>> <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree. Tek has been a good soldier, but he was seriously overpaid once >>>> for that, and I'm not even convinced he could outhit a George >>>> Kottaras/Dusty >>>> Brown platoon, let alone Josh Bard. >>>> >>>> Steve O >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Tom Salemi >>>> <<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Michael Holley, on EEI, suggested this morning that his "moles" tell >>>>> him that Varitek would rather sit out this year than accept the Red Sox >>>>> current offer. >>>>> I'm fine with that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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