Here's what I'm saying. John had a long lost of reasons why he hated Nomar: "not a team player" "phoney" etc. And the suddenly Nomar is "a good guy" and "humble".
And John is not alone in making these value judgements about the personalities of ball players. We hear these kinds of statements all the time. I'm saying that all these statements, the good and the bad, are crap. We don't have any idea what these guys are really like, and I'd were smart we'll accept the fact that we can't know. We are always viewing these guys through the image that their publicist creates for us. So I think it's fine to judge these guys based on their on field contributions, but beyond that we're just being played. On Jul 7, 2009, at ra10:23 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't expect her to do my taxes, but it's nice when she surprises > me. > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> > wrote: > Only foolish people expect celebrities to be role models. It's like > expecting a dog to do your taxes. > > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:06 PM, "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> This whole thing got weird with the "can't expect these guys to be >> role models when they get paid so much so young". >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected] >> > >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tue Jul 07 18:54:16 2009 >> Subject: Re: okay, change my mind >> >> >> I don't understand what this means. >> >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Charles Battikha <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > A little harsh... >> > What I think is that there's just too little role models close to >> > home. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Ray Salemi wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> It blows my mind that we take kids out of high school, lavish them >> >> with praise, money, and women, and then expect them to be model >> >> citizens. >> >> >> >> Frankly, any great ball player (or any athlete for that matter) >> who >> >> isn't an outright jerk is a surprise. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Tom Salemi<[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Actually, yeah. >> >>> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/9668965/ >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Beaudoin, John >> >>> <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Really? >> >>>> ________________________________ >> >>>> From: [email protected] >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>> To: [email protected] >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Mon Jul 06 17:03:36 2009 >> >>>> Subject: Re: okay, change my mind >> >>>> >> >>>> Nomar jumped into Boston Harbor to help save two women who'd >> >>>> fallen in. >> >>>> What does that say? >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Steve Ouellette >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Kirby Puckett says amen. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Steve O >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Frankly, I think it's impossible for us to really judge these >> >>>>>> guys >> >>>>>> based on their press statements--one way or the other. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Beaudoin, >> >>>>>> John<[email protected]> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Well, he did what he did and said what he said and he was >> >>>>>>> wrong. But, >> >>>>>>> being an old fart who's made mistakes in my own life and in >> my >> >>>>>>> own career, I >> >>>>>>> empathize with him and recognize that he's now sorry for how >> >>>>>>> it unfolded and >> >>>>>>> he's a humble,good guy. He's no Ricky Henderson. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >> >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray >> Salemi >> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:07 PM >> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: okay, change my mind >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> You are not allowed to change your mind. You have been >> >>>>>>> bashing him as >> >>>>>>> an evildoer for years. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Switch back immediately. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Beaudoin, >> >>>>>>> John<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Just listened to the press conference with Nomar on NESN. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I am wrong. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> He's much more mature. Much more intelligent. Much more >> >>>>>>>> humble. >> >>>>>>>> Good guy. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's >> >>>>>>> Productivity...Quickly" >> >>>>>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's >> >>>>>> Productivity...Quickly" >> >>>>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's >> >> Productivity...Quickly" >> >> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >> >> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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