I always liked Nomar. The guy always played hard while he was here.
Always hustled, always gave everything, and carried some pretty bad
teams for a while. In contrast to Manny, who dogged it down the line on
every ground ball he ever hit, Nomar always ran them out.
It got ugly in the end. The media hated the guy and they beat the crap
out of him. I think that really tarnished his image, maybe more than it
should have.
I was happy to see the crowd give him an extended standing-O the other
night, and had I been there I would have been cheering along with them.
Steve
________________________________
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: okay, change my mind
Here's what I'm saying. John had a long lost of reasons why he
hated Nomar: "not a team player" "phoney" etc. And the suddenly Nomar is
"a good guy" and "humble".
And John is not alone in making these value judgements about the
personalities of ball players. We hear these kinds of statements all
the time.
I'm saying that all these statements, the good and the bad, are
crap. We don't have any idea what these guys are really like, and I'd
were smart we'll accept the fact that we can't know. We are always
viewing these guys through the image that their publicist creates for
us.
So I think it's fine to judge these guys based on their on field
contributions, but beyond that we're just being played.
On Jul 7, 2009, at ra10:23 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>
wrote:
I don't expect her to do my taxes, but it's nice when
she surprises me.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Ray Salemi <
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
Only foolish people expect celebrities to be
role models. It's like expecting a dog to do your taxes.
On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:06 PM, "Beaudoin, John" <
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
This whole thing got weird with the
"can't expect these guys to be role models when they get paid so much so
young".
----- Original Message -----
From:
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< <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>
To:
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
< <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>
Sent: Tue Jul 07 18:54:16 2009
Subject: Re: okay, change my mind
I don't understand what this means.
On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Charles
Battikha < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> A little harsh...
> What I think is that there's just too
little role models close to
> home.
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Ray Salemi
wrote:
>
>>
>> It blows my mind that we take kids
out of high school, lavish them
>> with praise, money, and women, and
then expect them to be model
>> citizens.
>>
>> Frankly, any great ball player (or
any athlete for that matter) who
>> isn't an outright jerk is a surprise.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Tom
Salemi< <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Actually, yeah.
>>>
<http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/9668965/>
<http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/9668965/>
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/9668965/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:24 AM,
Beaudoin, John
>>> < <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From:
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>>>> <
<mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>
>>>> To:
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>>>> <
<mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Mon Jul 06 17:03:36 2009
>>>> Subject: Re: okay, change my mind
>>>>
>>>> Nomar jumped into Boston Harbor to
help save two women who'd
>>>> fallen in.
>>>> What does that say?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:01 PM,
Steve Ouellette
>>>> < <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Kirby Puckett says amen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:13 PM,
Ray Salemi < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frankly, I think it's impossible
for us to really judge these
>>>>>> guys
>>>>>> based on their press
statements--one way or the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM,
Beaudoin,
>>>>>> John<
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, he did what he did and
said what he said and he was
>>>>>>> wrong. But,
>>>>>>> being an old fart who's made
mistakes in my own life and in my
>>>>>>> own career, I
>>>>>>> empathize with him and recognize
that he's now sorry for how
>>>>>>> it unfolded and
>>>>>>> he's a humble,good guy. He's no
Ricky Henderson.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>>>>>>> [
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]>
mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:07
PM
>>>>>>> To:
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: okay, change my
mind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are not allowed to change
your mind. You have been
>>>>>>> bashing him as
>>>>>>> an evildoer for years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Switch back immediately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:04 PM,
Beaudoin,
>>>>>>> John<
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just listened to the press
conference with Nomar on NESN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's much more mature. Much
more intelligent. Much more
>>>>>>>> humble.
>>>>>>>> Good guy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Author of "Leading After a
Layoff: Reignite Your Team's
>>>>>>> Productivity...Quickly"
>>>>>>>
<http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com>
<http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Author of "Leading After a
Layoff: Reignite Your Team's
>>>>>> Productivity...Quickly"
>>>>>>
<http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com>
<http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff:
Reignite Your Team's
>> Productivity...Quickly"
>> <http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com>
<http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>>
>>>
>
>
> >
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