I tend to disagree. SS is not the position where you need/expect a  
tremendous contributions from the plate.
And currently they are virtually equal at the plate - OPS of 719  
(lugo) vs 721 (green)

And while Nick Green will not win golden gloves at SS, he's much  
better than Lugo.

Lugo   RF 3.33    F% 928%      7 errors  243 innings
Green RF 4.27    F% 967%      9 errors  486 innings

Lugo's fielding has dropped each of the last 3 seasons in both range  
and fielding %.
So there's nothing that tells us that he's going to turn this around.

Julio just isn't a good enough bat to to justify the lack of range  
and errors...
Nor is he good enough to think about at DH or another spot.
Nor is a particularly smart ball player

Quite honestly, they can pick up weak hitting SS's anywhere, anytime.

I would be interested if there's a stat about pitcher's stats/era  
with certain players in the field....

I'm all for having dropped him.



On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Beaudoin, John wrote:

> It has no meaning.
> At .284, how do you know Lugo wasn’t personally responsible for 10  
> of those 11 wins and 1 of those 16 losses?
> And Nick Green maybe had no part in 95% of the wins while on the  
> field.
>
> I don’t like Lugo as a player, but he’s a good player.  Even when  
> we hated him a year and two and three years ago, he was still above  
> average for the league.  He’s just below average on a team that’s  
> been perennially one of the top three or four teams in baseball as  
> long as he’s been on the Sox.
>
> I agree that Nick Green is better to have out there.  I’m not  
> disputing the opinion of the statements.  I’m only saying that the  
> data isn’t worth much considering that it’s a shortstop and not a  
> pitcher.  It’s not a +/- kind of thing like hockey or basketball.   
> How many points or goals your team gives and gets while a given  
> player is on the court/ice/field/pitch.  It’s not a good stat for  
> baseball.  Probably the worst for baseball among all the sports.   
> Well, except football, where there’s a defense and an offense.   
> Hey, remember some teams with more points produced by their defense  
> than by their offense?  That’s always a hoot.
>
> John
>
> From: [email protected]  
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Wow
>
> I will need to run this question by my son who just took his stats  
> AP exam to see if the number of trials is meaningful.
>
> I will say this, if we assume the Sox have a 60% chance of winning  
> a game, then the odds of going 11-16 are 3%.  This suggests that  
> Lugo should be removed from the team, covered in honey, and set  
> upon by beagles.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley  
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> On the Globe's Sox blog: "As Rosenthal points out, while Lugo is  
> batting .284 in limited time this season, the Sox are 11-16 when he  
> starts at short, compared to a 42-15 record when Nick Green is in  
> the lineup."
>
> Wow. I had no idea the difference was that pronounced.
>
> -- Matt
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's  
> Productivity...Quickly"
> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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