I agree with all below by Charles including getting rid of Lugo. I only wanted to make the point that the win/loss record while each is on the field has little meaning.
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Battikha Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Wow I tend to disagree. SS is not the position where you need/expect a tremendous contributions from the plate. And currently they are virtually equal at the plate - OPS of 719 (lugo) vs 721 (green) And while Nick Green will not win golden gloves at SS, he's much better than Lugo. Lugo RF 3.33 F% 928% 7 errors 243 innings Green RF 4.27 F% 967% 9 errors 486 innings Lugo's fielding has dropped each of the last 3 seasons in both range and fielding %. So there's nothing that tells us that he's going to turn this around. Julio just isn't a good enough bat to to justify the lack of range and errors... Nor is he good enough to think about at DH or another spot. Nor is a particularly smart ball player Quite honestly, they can pick up weak hitting SS's anywhere, anytime. I would be interested if there's a stat about pitcher's stats/era with certain players in the field.... I'm all for having dropped him. On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Beaudoin, John wrote: It has no meaning. At .284, how do you know Lugo wasn't personally responsible for 10 of those 11 wins and 1 of those 16 losses? And Nick Green maybe had no part in 95% of the wins while on the field. I don't like Lugo as a player, but he's a good player. Even when we hated him a year and two and three years ago, he was still above average for the league. He's just below average on a team that's been perennially one of the top three or four teams in baseball as long as he's been on the Sox. I agree that Nick Green is better to have out there. I'm not disputing the opinion of the statements. I'm only saying that the data isn't worth much considering that it's a shortstop and not a pitcher. It's not a +/- kind of thing like hockey or basketball. How many points or goals your team gives and gets while a given player is on the court/ice/field/pitch. It's not a good stat for baseball. Probably the worst for baseball among all the sports. Well, except football, where there's a defense and an offense. Hey, remember some teams with more points produced by their defense than by their offense? That's always a hoot. John ________________________________ From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Wow I will need to run this question by my son who just took his stats AP exam to see if the number of trials is meaningful. I will say this, if we assume the Sox have a 60% chance of winning a game, then the odds of going 11-16 are 3%. This suggests that Lugo should be removed from the team, covered in honey, and set upon by beagles. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> wrote: On the Globe's Sox blog: "As Rosenthal points out, while Lugo is batting .284 in limited time this season, the Sox are 11-16 when he starts at short, compared to a 42-15 record when Nick Green is in the lineup." Wow. I had no idea the difference was that pronounced. -- Matt -- Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity...Quickly" www.leadingafteralayoff.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
