Yes, I am saying that the best defensive teams didn't win last year, so
defense doesn't matter -- much.  It matters a little, but it doesn't matter
enough to delude ourselves into thinking that a strong defense makes a team
great.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> And I don't know what Ray is trying to say. The best defensive teams didn't
> win last year, so defense doesn't matter?
>
> I don't think anyone expected that ragtag collection the Mariners threw out
> there to win 85 games last year and have the best ERA in the American
> League. That defense (and that park) made Jarrod Washburn a star, and he
> flat out sucks. Nobody predicted San Francisco, the top defensive team in
> the NL, to win 88 games either. Some experts thought they'd be the worst
> team in the league.
>
> The difference between those teams and the Sox is that Boston also has a
> very competitive offense. I'm looking forward to 2010.
>
> Steve O
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I agree with the first part, and I'm fine with that. I trust Theo's
>> measure of value. He's right a lot more than he's wrong, with the most
>> glaring example of the latter being Texiera, but the Yanks probably would
>> have just bid $1 more.
>>
>> And I'm on board with his signing Lackey. Love the deal. And Beltre is a
>> good deal as well for the Sox as well. Gives us great flexibility.
>>
>> But I'm just not buying the notion that we've disovered the secretthat
>> defense is the THE key to winning, and that's why we're adding capable
>> fielders. We signed the capable fielders because they're willing to play for
>> short money.
>> .
>> .
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Really? It seems obvious to me that -- unable or unwilling to pony up for
>>> Holliday or Bay -- the Sox decided to focus on defense and pitching.
>>>
>>> Steve O
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> But I'm not going to lean too heavily on the defense argument. It just
>>>> strikes me more as a justification for deals that have happened than an
>>>> explanation of why the Sox made the deals in the first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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