Agreed
John (grew up just north of Hartford 50/50) ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Two games behind Yankees I think Dan has it much tougher than most of us. Even, I would say, people in CT. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: Where the Sox are in the standings has no impact on my watching them or rooting for them. It just makes it tougher to walk around my neighborhood when they are bad ;-) Dan D Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:24:11 PM Subject: Re: Two games behind Yankees So here is my "fandom" question. I've concluded that the Sox won't win this year, primarily because they won't make it into the playoffs. This really has no effect on how closely I watch the team or how I follow the season. Is this normal behavior, or will most folks on this list stop following the Sox when they come to the same conclusion? For all this talk of "bridge jumping" etc, there seems to be little pragmatic difference in action regardless of our beliefs. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> wrote: I don't remember Theo actually calling it a bridge year. Did he use those words? Even if he did, I don't take bridge to mean "won't compete for a title." It means "will bring in old guys on short contracts who we think can play." There is a fascinating New Englandian tendency -- maybe it's just a Red Sox phenomenon? -- to throw oneself off a bridge at the tiniest hint of trouble. Wait, not fascinating, aggravating. Baseball is a game of averages. Things even out over time. The Sox have outstanding pitching -- I don't think anyone disagreed with that at the beginning of the season. The question going in was if they would hit enough (which I think too much was made of). Injuries can happen, but if those don't get in the way, Josh Beckett will not be sporting a 7-plus ERA in September and John Lackey won't be at 5 either. Similarly, the Rays will come back to earth and the Padres will not win the NL West. It's not unreasonable to have questions and worries when a slump hits -- especially at the start of the season -- but it just seems excessive to call the season over 30 games into the year when there was, and is, every reason to expect them to play better. I too was pissed at the incredible crappiness of the April Sox. Just thought that surrendering was a silly option. Steve O On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: Hey, Theo called it a bridge year, not me. I just quoted the guy. I'm still not convinced this team is very good. Drew hasn't missed his obligatory 20-game stretch yet. I'm not sure Papi can keep this up, but I hope he can. Varitek is not going to finish the season with a 1.000-plus OPS. The bullpen is dicey and I'm pretty sure our starters aren't going to go into the eighth inning most games. Maybe Dice-K has found his groove, but he'll have to fight his history. Buccholz is better than I thought. Lester will be better than he is. Beckett, who knows. Same for Lackey. Maybe he'll end up on the DL as well. For the record, I'm not miserable. I'm just a fan who has concerns. I'm not sure why you happy folks have to dump on those of us who disagree. I'm not critical of anyone else who thinks highly of the team as long as they're intellectually honest and hold consistent opinions. Let's see how the season plays out. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: 91 games. I stand by my prediction. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> wrote: What do you mean convert? I've been pleading patience all along. Our pitching has been the worst in the league, but it's not REALLY the worst. There's a big correction coming (or now begun). I've been amazed at how many people gave up on the season sometime in mid April. Steve O On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: A convert? Welcome to the fold, Steve. Hey Guys, we have a good team to follow. Leave the Fellowship and join the Realist Alliance. ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Tue May 25 04:03:50 2010 Subject: Re: Two games behind Yankees Yeah? Well...blah blah to you to! On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> wrote: This season is over ... blah blah ... too far behind ... blah blah ... time to rebuild ... blah blah ... Theo has failed us ...blah blah ... I give up ... blah blah .... this team sucks ... blah blah ... no hope, no hope, no hope ... blah blah. The insurmountable deficit for the wild card lead has been cut to two games and we're not even out of May yet. 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