Did the players originally get paid?

We shouldn't pay them.

And they should all be locally grown.

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Marino
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Umpires

 

Great. Get rid of the night games and gloves, and we can really get back
to the purist form of the game.


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu Jun 03 11:55:03 2010
Subject: Re: Umpires

Perhaps it shouldn't. No sport is as bound to history as baseball.


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM, William Marino <[email protected]>
wrote:


        Calling balls and strikes with a computer and video camera may
not be perfect, but at least it would be consistent. Players would
adjust. Having a different guy out there every night with a different
view of the strike zone is crazy. Baseball has been around for over a
hundred years, and technology has developed. Baseball has not.



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        From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
        Sent: Thu Jun 03 10:19:41 2010
        Subject: Re: Umpires
       
        Remy, Merloni and other former players question the ball and
strike technology, at least what's used on TV.  I'm not sure it's as
infallible as you all like to think.
       
        Instant reply is a different issue entirely. I support that.
       
        And yes, the umpires should have consulted with one another. I'm
not sure it would have made a difference but it should have been done.
       
       
       
       
        On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Beaudoin, John
<[email protected]> wrote:
       
       
                I think Jerry Crasnick just lost all credibility among
peers and viewers.  And his comments are not even worth debating.
       
               
       
                But the issue of replay is worth debating.
       
                Very simply, it works in football and hockey and some
college sports as well.  It works in the same kind of close play
situations that occur in baseball.  Did he make the catch?  Were his
feet in bounds?  Did the clock run out?  Etc.  Its been proven to work.
       
               
       
                And as far as balls and strikes go, well, its been
proven to work in tennis, which is very similar in technology to the
balls and strikes thing.
       
               
       
                So, we have proof that it can work and I have not heard
any valid arguments against it.
       
               
       
                Dump the umps.
       
               
       
                John
       
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                        From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
                Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:56 AM
       
                To: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: Umpires
              
               
       
                Judging by football, the crowd get's pretty happy when
that happens.
       
               
       
                I was at a Sox game when they overturned an Ortiz home
run that had been called a triple.  The crowd went wild.
       
               
       
               
       
                On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley
<[email protected]> wrote:
       
                Jerry Crasnick on ESPN.com. This is the second media
person I've heard say this, and it's the absolute most daft thing I've
ever read:
       
               
       
                "Inevitably, the game's sad ending is going to elicit an
outcry for expanded use of instant replay. It's a worthwhile debate, but
consider this for a second: How gratifying would it have felt if Joyce's
botched call was followed by a trip to the replay booth, a five-minute
conference, the umpiring crew emerging from the tunnel and Joyce
throwing up his right arm with an "out" sign.
       
                Yes, Galarraga would have had his perfect game, on
paper, but that single transcendent moment of celebration is something
that can never be retrieved. In baseball or any other sport, winners
don't get mulligans on euphoria."
       
               
       
               
       
                ________________________________
       
                        From: Steve Gendron <[email protected]>
       
              
                To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
       
                Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 8:39:13 AM
                Subject: RE: Umpires
       
               
       
               
       
                When you watch the play, you see that as Gallaraga comes
off the bag, he shifts the ball in his glove.  To the naked eye, it
could appear that he didn't have control of the ball until after he was
off the bag.  In slow motion, it is apparent that he did have control of
the ball while on the bag.  I think that is why Joyce called him safe.
       
               
       
                Other than instant replay, it would be tough to automate
calls like this.  But balls and strikes at home plate should be a piece
of cake.  Dump the umps.
       
                       
       
                        ________________________________
       
                                        From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Matt & Olga McSorley
                        Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:13 AM
                        To: [email protected]
       
                        Subject: Re: Umpires
       
                        I think Joyce knew he blew the call right away.
Cabrera at first, and then Leyland after the 28th out was recorded, read
him the absolute riot act and Joyce stood there and took it. Umps don't
take that kind of crap unless they know they're wrong.
       
                       
       
                        -- Matt
       
                       
       
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                                        From: "Beaudoin, John"
<[email protected]>
                        To: [email protected]

                        Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 8:05:51 AM
                        Subject: Re: Umpires
       
                        Sorry Steve.
                        But that's your self-imposed criterion. It's not
mine.
                      
                        Costing that pitchers millions in endorsements
and income is cause enough.
       
                       
       
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                                        From:
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                        To: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
                        Sent: Thu Jun 03 04:53:41 2010
                        Subject: RE: Umpires
       
                       
       
                      
                         > But the ultimate measure of an enforcement
mechanism is whether or not it disrupted the competitive balance of a
game. It did not.
       
                       
       
                        But it easily could have.  And umpire mistakes
effect the game all the time.
       
                       
       
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