I'm fine with not paying them and no night games. And I'm willing to talk about the gloves.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>wrote: > Did the players originally get paid? > > We shouldn’t pay them. > > And they should all be locally grown. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *William Marino > *Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Umpires > > > > Great. Get rid of the night games and gloves, and we can really get back to > the purist form of the game. > > > > -------------------------- > Sent using BlackBerry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu Jun 03 11:55:03 2010 > Subject: Re: Umpires > > Perhaps it shouldn't. No sport is as bound to history as baseball. > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM, William Marino <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Calling balls and strikes with a computer and video camera may not > be perfect, but at least it would be consistent. Players would adjust. > Having a different guy out there every night with a different view of the > strike zone is crazy. Baseball has been around for over a hundred years, and > technology has developed. Baseball has not. > > > > -------------------------- > Sent using BlackBerry > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] < > [email protected]> > To: [email protected] < > [email protected]> > Sent: Thu Jun 03 10:19:41 2010 > Subject: Re: Umpires > > Remy, Merloni and other former players question the ball and strike > technology, at least what's used on TV. I'm not sure it's as infallible as > you all like to think. > > Instant reply is a different issue entirely. I support that. > > And yes, the umpires should have consulted with one another. I'm > not sure it would have made a difference but it should have been done. > > > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Beaudoin, John < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I think Jerry Crasnick just lost all credibility among > peers and viewers. And his comments are not even worth debating. > > > > But the issue of replay is worth debating. > > Very simply, it works in football and hockey and some > college sports as well. It works in the same kind of close play situations > that occur in baseball. Did he make the catch? Were his feet in bounds? > Did the clock run out? Etc. Its been proven to work. > > > > And as far as balls and strikes go, well, its been proven > to work in tennis, which is very similar in technology to the balls and > strikes thing. > > > > > So, we have proof that it can work and I have not heard any > valid arguments against it. > > > > Dump the umps. > > > > John > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of Ray Salemi > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:56 AM > > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Umpires > > > > Judging by football, the crowd get's pretty happy when that > happens. > > > > I was at a Sox game when they overturned an Ortiz home run > that had been called a triple. The crowd went wild. > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Jerry Crasnick on ESPN.com. This is the second media person > I've heard say this, and it's the absolute most daft thing I've ever read: > > > > "Inevitably, the game's sad ending is going to elicit an > outcry for expanded use of instant replay. It's a worthwhile debate, but > consider this for a second: How gratifying would it have felt if Joyce's > botched call was followed by a trip to the replay booth, a five-minute > conference, the umpiring crew emerging from the tunnel and Joyce throwing up > his right arm with an "out" sign. > > Yes, Galarraga would have had his perfect game, on paper, > but that single transcendent moment of celebration is something that can > never be retrieved. In baseball or any other sport, winners don't get > mulligans on euphoria." > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Steve Gendron <[email protected]> > > > To: "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > > Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 8:39:13 AM > Subject: RE: Umpires > > > > > > When you watch the play, you see that as Gallaraga comes > off the bag, he shifts the ball in his glove. To the naked eye, it could > appear that he didn't have control of the ball until after he was off the > bag. In slow motion, it is apparent that he did have control of the ball > while on the bag. I think that is why Joyce called him safe. > > > > Other than instant replay, it would be tough to automate > calls like this. But balls and strikes at home plate should be a piece of > cake. Dump the umps. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: > [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of Matt & Olga McSorley > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:13 AM > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Umpires > > I think Joyce knew he blew the call right away. > Cabrera at first, and then Leyland after the 28th out was recorded, read him > the absolute riot act and Joyce stood there and took it. Umps don't take > that kind of crap unless they know they're wrong. > > > > -- Matt > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Beaudoin, John" < > [email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 8:05:51 AM > Subject: Re: Umpires > > Sorry Steve. > But that's your self-imposed criterion. It's not > mine. > > Costing that pitchers millions in endorsements and > income is cause enough. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: > [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] < > [email protected]> > Sent: Thu Jun 03 04:53:41 2010 > Subject: RE: Umpires > > > > > > But the ultimate measure of an enforcement > mechanism is whether or not it disrupted the competitive balance of a game. > It did not. > > > > But it easily could have. 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