Good list. Mine's a bit different. I don't recall 75 at all (I was six years
old.) I do remember Yaz popping out to Nettles but I don't have an emotional
memory of that....I just watched the games back then..


1) 86 - I mean, really. C'mon.
2) 03 - That was the first year I really believed we could win the WS. New
ownership. Pedro. But....
3) 11 - This may just be because it's fresh, but I think it's almost worst
to not make the playoffs then to lose in the playoffs. And the way they
didn't make the playoffs was epic.
4) 99 - Tim Tschida game - I just knew that fate - and MLB - wouldn't let
the Yankees lose
5) 04 - Oct. 16, 2004. Even though it worked out in the end, I've never been
so upset in all my life.



On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:

>  After the bizarre night when the Red Sox completed the collapse of ’11,
> Ray said that he had never seen anything like this in 35 years of watching
> baseball.  I agree, it was a surreal experience with both games that would
> have continued our season going to 2 outs, 2 strikes in the ninth before
> they crumbled, along with our playoff hopes.  It was a tough night for sure.
>   I smashed a nearly new bag of Tostitos into submission (the scoop kind
> that hold the salsa), got a restless night of sleep, and endured some
> razzing from my Yankee fan associates yesterday.  But a day removed from
> that mess, I have pretty much left it behind.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Conversely, the collapses of 78 and 86 are permanent scars on my soul.
> This is not even close. I think the difference is that none of us
> realistically thought that this team had a snowball’s chance of winning a
> WS.  Sure we all wanted the season to continue, but we knew it would be a
> short lived playoff season.****
>
> ** **
>
> In fact, I’d say there are a number of Red Sox experiences that I can think
> of that would rate much higher than this one on the pain meter.  Here’s my
> top 5 ranked list:****
>
> ** **
>
> **1)      **86 World Series – A Red Sox fan nightmare that can just never
> be topped.****
>
> **2)      **’03 Aaron Boone – I was holding a ticket to game one of the
> World Series in my hand when this one went down.  It was a WS series that I
> really thought I could win.  Plus this was the first Red Sox disappointment
> that took my family down too.  I put kids to bed that night crying their
> eyes out.  I was ready to turn myself over to DSS for making Red Sox fans
> out of my children.  (However, this made the redemption of ’04 all the
> better). ****
>
> **3)      **Game 7 in ’75 – I was only 13 for this one, but I will never
> forget it.  Not exactly a collapse since we lost to the Big Red Machine, but
> after the Euphoria of Fisk’s HR in game 6, it was a huge letdown.****
>
> **4)      **’78 Bucky Dent – This was a true collapse.  A team made up of
> my baseball heroes that should have won the World Series.  It was
> heart-breaking to see that opportunity slip away – especially to the
> Yankees.****
>
> **5)      **’08 ALCS game 7 – We tend to forget about this one, but I had
> attended one of the biggest comebacks in Sox history in game 5 of the series
> at Fenway.  The Sox were facing elimination down 7-0 in the 7th and
> rallied to win in the 9th.  The Sox used that momentum to take game 6 and
> tie the series in Tampa, but could not prevail in game 7.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Probably a few more before I get to this year’s debacle…****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:57 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* This is not 1986 or 1978 for that matter****
>
>  ** **
>
> I was poking around boston.com's sports page for the first time this year
> when I came across this Obnoxious Boston Fan guy:****
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/obnoxiousbostonfan/2011/09/this_should_set_red_sox.html
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Oh my God, this guy is ridiculous.  He claims that this 2011 collapse has
> taught a younger generation of fans what it was like to be a Sox fan.****
>
> ** **
>
> This collapse was horrifying and memorable, but it was *not* as bad as the
> collapse in 1978, or was it as bad as 1986.****
>
> ** **
>
> In 1978 the Sox played in a league where you had to win the division to get
> into the playoffs, and we *never* were able to beat the Yankees and win
> the division.  We would routinely have the second best record in the
> American League and watch the playoffs from home.  So when we had an
> insurmountable 14 game lead at the All Star break, this was our chance to
> finally break through.  Then we blew the lead and were 2 or 3 games back
> with a week or so to play, and then we *came back* from that to force a
> playoff game that we lost with men in scoring position and Yaz hitting
> (popped out to third, not that it preys on my mind).****
>
> ** **
>
> In 1986 the Sox had barely escaped Anaheim thanks to Hendu and were about
> to steal the World-Freaking-Series from a team with 108 wins.  108 wins and
> we were going to beat them.  And then, of course, we know what happened.
>  The Red Sox hadn't seen the playoffs since 1975 and 1967 before that, and
> every decade we played the decade's strongest NL team for the WS.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> *That* my friends was collapse.  In those days we only made the playoffs
> when historic and mystical forces combined to create a Black Swan event that
> rocked our world.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> This year? Yeah it was bad and frustrating given that we had this all-star
> lineup.  But, really, do we have any doubt that we'll be right back in the
> thick of it next year?  Was this year a fluke that we somehow let slip
> through our fingers.   There was a time when the Red Sox were Tampa Bay and
> we got in only by the skin of our teeth after God Himself reached down
> and anointed us.****
>
> ** **
>
> So it seems to me that the obnoxious Boston Fan is being a little
> self-serving to suggest that he has suffered through anything like real
> angst.****
>
> ** **
>
> It would take at least 20-years of futility for us to feel that way again.
> ****
>
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