So here's the question.

Is the Globe:

1.  A mouthpiece for the ownership...doing it's evil bidding?

or

2.  Doing its job?  (As Tom said).

Could it be both?

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Could the fact that the Globe through the NYT owns part of the Red Sox have
> had any role in the way the story was played?
>
> I share Tom's concern about this ownership. Every time someone leaves the
> team, that person gets smeared. If I had to guess, it's mostly the dark arts
> of Lucchino at work. Is he really that friggin' valuable to the operation
> that he's kept around?
>
> -- Matt
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Theo Replacement
>
> Well, I did say they weren't racists.
>
> Anyway,  I look forward to Lucchino's blistering defense of Francona in
> tomorrow's paper. Or perhaps he can address the question of why they'd let a
> drug-addled person manage a major league ball club.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't know.  I'm certainly not going to move towards Yawkee-esque shame
> over this.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ray,
>
> The Globe agreed to ownership's interview terms: We'll tell you what we
> want you to know provided you keep our names out of it.
>
> You can criticize the paper, I guess. But they're job is to get information
> out there. If the price for that information is keeping out a "declined to
> comment" sentence then so be it. Not too heavy a price.
>
> I mean, this happens in Washington all the time. Everything is on back
> ground, not for attribution.
>
> -Tom
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Then how did that get past the self-respecting editor?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *Here's what bothers me most about the article. At no point does Hohler
> tell us that Lucchino, Henry or Warner refused to comment. He doesn't even
> mention the Trio except to describe the owner of the yacht.*
> *
> *
> *He does cast a wide...*
> *
> *
> *"This article is based on a series of interviews the Globe conducted with
> individuals familiar with the Sox operation at all levels. Most requested
> anonymity out of concern for their jobs or potential damage to their
> relationships in the organization. Others refused to comment or did not
> respond to interview requests."*
> *
> *
> *But to not SPECIFICALLY state that he reached out to the ownership and
> they declined to comment tells me one thing.*
> *
> *
> *They did comment on the grounds that he not drag them into the story. And
> he probably refused to insert "declined to comment" because they actually
> had commented.*
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't get this.
>
> First you said that no self-respecting editor would publish an article
> without at least being able to say that the ownership declined to comment.
>  But then when they did publish an article without reference to the
> ownership commenting, you say the paper is doing it's job.
>
> So I'm confused now as to what you're saying.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The problem is the paper printing the article?
>
> The paper is doing its job.
>
> I am assuming they are the sources or they authorized sources to speak on
> their behalf. I can't believe  that Hohler would have collected this from
> minions and NOT called ownership for a comment.
>
> Assume he did, why wouldn't they go on the record saying something like:
> "we're not going to make accusations of our former manager" and distance
> themselves from the story?
>
> So are you assuming Hohler didn't call Henry/Lucchino for comment? I'd say
> that's far less likely than Lucchino spreading stuff around.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> How does the self-respecting editor let it pass without that?
>
> I mean, you're assuming that they are the sources, but the real problem is
> the reporter and paper printing the piece as is.  The owners may, or may
> not, be the sources, but there is no way to tell for sure.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> And my point about the commenting is this. They DID comment, but they
> didn't want the comments tied to them.
>
> Otherwise, no respectable editor would let this article pass without
> telling the reporter, "This is some pretty damning stuff. Did you talk to
> the owners? If so, can we at least put in here that John Henry or Lucchino
> declined to comment."
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> No, I think they basically authorized the article. Happens everytime
> someone leaves town. The bad stuff flows out like a sewer pipe.
>
> This is a fairly tight ship. I think it only loosens up when Larry & Co.
> want it to loosen up.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This seems a bit harsh.  Why do you say that?  Just because they didn't
> want to comment on the article?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> I'm beginning to feel some shame about this ownership. No, they're not
> racist rednecks like the Yawkey's but I'm not sure they're too many rungs up
> the decency ladder.
>
>
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