I never understood the fixation with Orel Hershiser (not just you). I mean the guy won 204 games but had 150 losses, and only had 2 really great seasons, 1985 (19-3, 2.03) and 1988 (23-8, 2.26). Otherwise, he was a journeyman pitcher.
Dan D Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Ode to Trot I think there is more to it than the nastiness (thought that is part of it). I'm looking for a pitcher who respects hist abilities, the game, and the craftsmanship of excellence. Intimidation is part of the craft--though not the only part. I'm reminded of George Will's excellent book, MEN AT WORK, in which he profiles four men: Tony Larussa (manager), Tony Gwynn (hitter), Cal Ripkin (fielding), and Orel Hershiser (pitcher). Will uses the book to show that high level baseball, when played right, is a work, is a craft. I simply haven't seen a workmanlike respect for the game out of any of our pitchers. They all remind me of Nuke Laloushe. I see them on a scale from best to worst: John Lester Daniel Bard Clay Buckholz Dice-K John Lackey I don't have any feel for Felix Dumbront. But none of these guys is close to being an Orel Hershiser. Ray On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, Dan DiBiase wrote: They are few and far between, that's for sure. In the major leagues now, I'm thinking that maybe Justin Verlander approaches that (but >doesn't have the attitude that those three had). There are lots of really good >pitchers around now, but I can't think of anyone that has the >combination of extremely high skill and extreme nastiness that Clemens and >Pedro had all the time, and Schilling could have at times. >You knew that they could - and would - throw at you at any time, just to mess >you up. > > > >Dan D >Central NJ USA > > > > >________________________________ > From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 7:55 AM >Subject: Re: Ode to Trot > > >What we really need is a Clemens, Schilling, or Pedro. > > >A starting pitcher with an unabashed desire to win and the skill to do it. > > >We need a Larry Bird of pitching. > >Sent from my iPhone > >On May 29, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > >I think Pedroia is a worthy successor. >> >> >>Dan D >>Central NJ USA >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Steve Gendron <[email protected]> >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:20 PM >>Subject: Ode to Trot >> >> >>Great day at Fenway today. Perfect baseball weather and a great game, until Fettuccine Alfredo was served in the ninth and started pitching BP. Thankfully we had a big lead, but he has me worried. >> >>Anyway, our old buddy Trot Nixon was on hand to be honored as part of the 100th anniversary celebration. It was good to see Trot and reminisce about the dirt dog days. I miss seeing him in RF and the style of baseball he played. Seems like we could use a bit more of that these days. -- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Red Sox Citizens" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Red Sox Citizens" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> -- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red >Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > -- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red >Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- Author of Confessions of a Good Mother: The story of an assassin and mom who struggles with life balance issues. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.
