At this point, Crawford's contract was much more of an albatross than Lackey's.
Steve O On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]>wrote: > You mean they could have dumped Lackey too??? Now I'm angry. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: Wild Waivers > > > http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1061155865&srvc=sports&position=2 > > > Here's the story. Please note that Henry had NO PLANS to trade Gonzalez > until the Dodgers started agreeing to take contracts, bolstering Steve's > points. > > But - if this is true - it goes against all the talk being put forth by > the media that, "It was clear Gonzalez wasn't going to play well here." Not > clear to Henry, apparently, not until the money came into play. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just as an aside, the Herald says the Dodgers originally wanted Beckett > (like actually wanted him) and offered to take on his salary and Lackeys if > the Sox included Gonzalez. > > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hold me Larry....finally, a kindred spirit. > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: > > Agree that the rationale was (is) A-Gon had to go to get rid of Beckett > however I think we have blown a BIG opportunity to really be a powerhouse > in the ALE for the next several years... It's great that Henry doesn't > have to pay luxury tax in 2014 - but for a man individually whom paid over > $1B in last year's offseason (Crawford, A-Gon, Liverpool, etc.), I don't > see a 'luxury' tax holding him back. Now that said - if we have supposedly > freed up dollars to go 'after some big names in the offseason', what's the > point? We won't do these HUGE contracts again - so that limits our > abilities to be competitive in the market and therefore limits our > abilities to acquire the 'right' players to put this team back together. > > So where does that leave us... > > Losing Elsbury end of next year, gaining a more competitive AA and AAA > team - bringing up more younger players to grow from within... changes > that dramatic will take time and we won't be competitive in the ALE for > next few years. > > I see this trade having huge ramifications for years to come and I for one > am not happy that A-Gone is outta here (and Crawford too). I think we > could have come up with a better way to rid ourselves of Beckett than this > mega-deal. > > And we need Aceves for next year... :D > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh I understand the rationale. Just don't agree with it. > > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I think Steve made the right point. Taking Beckett and Crawford off our > hands was hugely expensive. A-Gon was the only way to make it worthwhile. > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm actually not a sniper. I'm generally a Sox apologist. I have > difficulty in finding fault in most of what they do. > > That said, I didn't like the Valentine hiring, and, no, I don't like the > trade. I think the Sox sold low on Gonzalez and Crawford. > > I went into this ad nauseum on Facebook. I know many of you aren't privy > to that and I apologize. But I won't revisit the argument unless someone > really wants to. > > In short, I think Gonzalez and Crawford would have found their footing > eventually. These have been two exceptional years. > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > So I can assume that you weren't in favor of the trade? Or are you just in > favor of general sniping, no matter > what the Sox do? ;-) > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:52 PM > *Subject:* Re: Wild Waivers > > Give it a day. > > I just hope if the Sox try to trade away Aceves they don't throw in Jacoby > Ellsbury as a sweetener. > > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Dan Dibiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > You know, after thinking about this for a day, I am actually more > interested in this team now than I was prior to the trade... > > I have to admit, though, to being pretty pissed that A-Gon showed that > elusive-in-Boston home run power in his first AB with the Dodgers... > > Sent from Dan's iPhone > > On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > More like Burleson and Lynn being traded. > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: > > This reminds me of the whole Fisk episode all over again. I hope I'm > wrong... > > Sent from Larry's mobile > > On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Madness. You know why you don't do this? Because the Yankees would never > do this. And they win all the damn time. This is a panic move, and it's not > going to pay off. There aren't any free agents coming up that are worth a > damn. No Puljos. No Fielder. No Hamels. No nothing. > > We staring into the the abyss of mediocrity and you're all saying, JUMP > IN. The losing is fine.... > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dump all the high paid free agents and start over. > > I'm happy to dump A-Gon. He's not hitting as well as our rookies. > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > If they dump and A-Gon, then what the hell are we doing here? > > Let's not get crazy. > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Too bad they pulled A-Gon back. I would have been happy to see all that > salary money leave the Sox. > > I pray they don't make the same mistake with Beckett. > > Have them both and good luck! > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dodgers claim A-Gon and Beckett. Sox have pulled back A-Gon, but maybe let > Beckett go (if he approves)...? 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