If this deal has to be done I don't disagree with including Crawford instead of Lackey.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected] > wrote: > I think it points to the fact that Henry was STILL not sold on Crawford > and was happy to finally get rid of that mistake in his eyes. > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Steve Ouellette > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> At this point, Crawford's contract was much more of an albatross than >> Lackey's. >> >> Steve O >> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You mean they could have dumped Lackey too??? Now I'm angry. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:42 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: Wild Waivers >>> >>> >>> http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1061155865&srvc=sports&position=2 >>> >>> >>> Here's the story. Please note that Henry had NO PLANS to trade Gonzalez >>> until the Dodgers started agreeing to take contracts, bolstering Steve's >>> points. >>> >>> But - if this is true - it goes against all the talk being put forth by >>> the media that, "It was clear Gonzalez wasn't going to play well here." Not >>> clear to Henry, apparently, not until the money came into play. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Just as an aside, the Herald says the Dodgers originally wanted Beckett >>> (like actually wanted him) and offered to take on his salary and Lackeys if >>> the Sox included Gonzalez. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hold me Larry....finally, a kindred spirit. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Agree that the rationale was (is) A-Gon had to go to get rid of Beckett >>> however I think we have blown a BIG opportunity to really be a powerhouse >>> in the ALE for the next several years... It's great that Henry doesn't >>> have to pay luxury tax in 2014 - but for a man individually whom paid over >>> $1B in last year's offseason (Crawford, A-Gon, Liverpool, etc.), I don't >>> see a 'luxury' tax holding him back. Now that said - if we have supposedly >>> freed up dollars to go 'after some big names in the offseason', what's the >>> point? We won't do these HUGE contracts again - so that limits our >>> abilities to be competitive in the market and therefore limits our >>> abilities to acquire the 'right' players to put this team back together. >>> >>> So where does that leave us... >>> >>> Losing Elsbury end of next year, gaining a more competitive AA and AAA >>> team - bringing up more younger players to grow from within... changes >>> that dramatic will take time and we won't be competitive in the ALE for >>> next few years. >>> >>> I see this trade having huge ramifications for years to come and I for >>> one am not happy that A-Gone is outta here (and Crawford too). I think we >>> could have come up with a better way to rid ourselves of Beckett than this >>> mega-deal. >>> >>> And we need Aceves for next year... :D >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Oh I understand the rationale. Just don't agree with it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I think Steve made the right point. Taking Beckett and Crawford off our >>> hands was hugely expensive. A-Gon was the only way to make it worthwhile. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I'm actually not a sniper. I'm generally a Sox apologist. I have >>> difficulty in finding fault in most of what they do. >>> >>> That said, I didn't like the Valentine hiring, and, no, I don't like the >>> trade. I think the Sox sold low on Gonzalez and Crawford. >>> >>> I went into this ad nauseum on Facebook. I know many of you aren't privy >>> to that and I apologize. But I won't revisit the argument unless someone >>> really wants to. >>> >>> In short, I think Gonzalez and Crawford would have found their footing >>> eventually. These have been two exceptional years. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> So I can assume that you weren't in favor of the trade? Or are you just >>> in favor of general sniping, no matter >>> what the Sox do? ;-) >>> >>> Dan D >>> Central NJ USA >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:52 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: Wild Waivers >>> >>> Give it a day. >>> >>> I just hope if the Sox try to trade away Aceves they don't throw in >>> Jacoby Ellsbury as a sweetener. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Dan Dibiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> You know, after thinking about this for a day, I am actually more >>> interested in this team now than I was prior to the trade... >>> >>> I have to admit, though, to being pretty pissed that A-Gon showed that >>> elusive-in-Boston home run power in his first AB with the Dodgers... >>> >>> Sent from Dan's iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> More like Burleson and Lynn being traded. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> This reminds me of the whole Fisk episode all over again. I hope I'm >>> wrong... >>> >>> Sent from Larry's mobile >>> >>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Madness. You know why you don't do this? Because the Yankees would never >>> do this. And they win all the damn time. This is a panic move, and it's not >>> going to pay off. There aren't any free agents coming up that are worth a >>> damn. No Puljos. No Fielder. No Hamels. No nothing. >>> >>> We staring into the the abyss of mediocrity and you're all saying, JUMP >>> IN. The losing is fine.... >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dump all the high paid free agents and start over. >>> >>> I'm happy to dump A-Gon. He's not hitting as well as our rookies. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> If they dump and A-Gon, then what the hell are we doing here? >>> >>> Let's not get crazy. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Too bad they pulled A-Gon back. I would have been happy to see all that >>> salary money leave the Sox. >>> >>> I pray they don't make the same mistake with Beckett. >>> >>> Have them both and good luck! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> Dodgers claim A-Gon and Beckett. Sox have pulled back A-Gon, but maybe >>> let Beckett go (if he approves)...? 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