Thanks for the feedback Shane,  yes I heard that was the problem with them,  
after the fish are clean they have no more food.  I was hoping because 
cleaner wrasse are much easier for me to get then cleaner shrimp.  

Steve 
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From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2001-06-25 12:50 PM:

Steve,
This is one of those subjects that always starts some type of debate. Some
of us on the list have had success keeping cleaner wrasse alive in our
systems for long periods of time, and have gotten them to eat frozen food.
Others have not been so lucky. My opinion..... don't do it. The people who
have kept them in their systems for a long (well, what we consider long)
period of time are in a small percentage overall of cleaner wrasse that are
sold. As you mentioned, most of them clean the fish, then no longer have any
food source, do not adapt to frozen foods and starve to death. They are
opportunistic, and are continuously looking for food. Thus, they starve
quickly and easily. If you are looking for something to help clean parasites
from your fish naturally, consider cleaner shrimps....

FWIW/IMO 

Shane C.

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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        Sent:   Monday, June 25, 2001 11:26 AM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        cleaner wrasse

        Hello everyone,  I would like to get a cleaner wrasse since they are
good at 
        keeping other fish healthy but I have they can be hard to keep/feed,
any 
        helpful comments/hints out there on this.
        Thanks in advance.

        Steve 
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        From: "Culross, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2001-06-22 6:57
AM:

        You are correct that they will start to have beneficial bacteria on
them but
        you should not be concerned about it. In comparision to your main
filtration
        (live rock etc.) it is a non-event. Wash them in the sink.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Gene Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:03 AM
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject: the best way?


        Hey All
         
        On my recently set up 55 reef, I installed 2 Zoo Med Power
Sweeps...one at
        each end of the tank, timed( after much effort) to hit in the middle
of the
        tank for another little burst of wave action. I really like them,
but when I
        first set them up, I used them without the adapter sponges that fit
around
        the intake pipe...and as they are very sensitive to any dirt sand
particles
        or even some Nori that get sucks up ...they tend to clog easily, so
I put
        the sponge sleeves on the intake pipe. Now my question is this.
stupid
        probably...but here goes...as these sponges are becoming pretty well
coated
        with food particles, fish pooh...and such...they need to be
cleaned...but do
        I just slip them off, scrub them off in fresh water...or do they
contain now
        some beneficial fauna and/or bacteria...that should be rinsed off in
the
        main tank itself and then put reinstalled. I mean are they becoming
mini
        nitrate factories...or is there to much water movement through them
, thus
        making them not likely to become anaerobic (sp)...hum...any help
would
        greatly be appreciated here.
        TIA
        Respectfully
        Geno



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