IMO, people say stupid things all the time in this world, and we don't
always know why, but it is our responsibility to call them on it, and hope
they are "open minded" enough to recognize the err of their ways. Hopefully
they sincerely apologize, and make better choices in the future. Andrew
sounds sincere to me, and racial discussions almost always end up being more
emotion than truth. So in the spirit of forgiveness, I think you should
accept his apology and move on to reefkeeping.
Signed,
Tang, Clarki and Mr. Blenny;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Dillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
I take full responsibility for my actions, no one forced me to respond
to Marco's remarks. I am going to leave the list, I have neither helped nor
learned much here, and have really stirred things up. I am sorry that I
ever voiced my opinions here, and if I could I would take back everything I
said. But I cant and after this thread has ended I will leave and let you
all discuss reef keeping in full.
Sorry again
Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Murphy <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: Thanks Shane!!!
Andrew:
your point lacks "credence"...we all both as Americans...and all other
peoples of the world were touched, both in sadness and in anger...by the
events of the past week... so why do you feel that that makes you
"special"...to be able to insult those "different" from you? Why do you
always play the "victim"...as a 100% disabled combat Vietnam Veteran...and
NO...I am not whining...but proud of that...this past week has brought back
much to me...on a very "personable level"...but it does not allow me...to
become...the very thing...that we are finding ourselves in trouble for...we
need to come back to a place of...mutual respect and honor...for people of
all races,creeds,religions, and nationalities. To make such a
statement...as..."heck , I even like Mexican food"...completely...gives you
UP...for who you really are. A "know it all"...hiding behind your racist
rhetoric. And yes Andrew...I do not usually add to the "fire" in this
list...but this is one time , I agree with ever one...who has been on your
case...
For yours is a case to...be ON.
Respectfully
Geno
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Dillard
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
should I then to forward Marco's remarks in Spanish? I would not think of
such a thing, I think things said on the list should stay there, and would
not think of invading his privacy like that. I am sorry to offend you but
put yourself in my place. You post a joking response to someones reply
about a UV, they in turn post a smug reply to your remarks in a language you
do not understand. All the other Latin Americans/ Spanish speaking peoples
jump on the band wagon about how those obscene remarks are perfect for the
situation. I truly am sorry about this and I am not calling anyone close
minded but myself. Not to be rude but perhaps this was misinterpereted. I
am very sorry, lately I have been really angry, I knew a few at the Pentagon
and all week I have been building up to this level. I am sorry I took it
out on Marco and the others.
Do what you will,
Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: Luis Mercado <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
Andrew:
Even your apologies seem to implied disdain and intolerance for
others. Banning you from the list would be a great start. But I have also
forwarded your remarks to your ISP as I believe they have a clause about
espousing racist and/or intolerant or libelous views. Your remark about
upsetting hispanics and liking mexican food just go to show your utter lack
of any tact or taste. And the term is Latin-American but any other
distinction other than a member of the human race is unacceptable to me.
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Dillard <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
not a racist, am sorry if I offended the hispanics on this board. Heck I
even like Mexican food. What would you do when a bunch of mexicans start
cussing you out? Hmm, that makes me want to give them a big hug.... Go
ahead and ban me from the list, it wont make me cry. Sometimes it is hard
to communicate through writing, I tend to be rather blunt when expressing my
(usually) close minded views. I am sorry that people get offended.
Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: Luis Mercado <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
Andrew:
It is obvious that you think you know it all. On top of that you seem
to be a racist idiot as well. With all that is going on in the country,
which by the way is fostered by attitudes just like yours, it is not needed
or wanted on this lists to hear the idiotic and racists ideas of someone who
could not probably find his A##$hole with a flashlight and a map.
Please take your sort of crap off list and if you cannot provide any
useful help without insulting somebody's race or ideas, then your kind of
help is certainly not wanted or needed.
Luis Mercado
President & CEO
PlanetReef Enterprises
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----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Dillard <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
oh no the mexicans are ganging up on me, I cant state on this list my
feelings towards the mexican community. Everyday there are more and more
illegal mexicans crossing the border, living illegaly and hurting the
economy. Anyway, you reef your way, its your tank that you're hurting.
Andrew
PS Anyone know what chinganda means in mexican speak?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: Thanks Shane!!!
Agree !!
Reef Man
-----Original Message-----
From: Luis Mercado [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
Well said! and Ditto!Luis Mercado
President & CEO
PlanetReef Enterprises
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Delsordo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: Thanks Shane!!!
andrew, simplemente vete a la chingada
gracias.
Marco
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Dillard [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Sent: Lunes, 17 de Septiembre de 2001 02:19 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!
I'm glad for you, you can now kill benificial micro organisms and bacteria
more effectively! That way you can grow even more of that beautiful scarlet
algae! Man I wish I had a UV.......
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Delsordo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:08 AM
Subject: Thanks Shane!!!
Ohh Shane, you�re a Godess, i could just kiss you if you were here!!!.
Remember my uv with all the quartz tubes all covered with calcium
sediments??? well, I followed your advice and run it for about 2 hours with
water + vinegar. When i checked the tubes after 15 mins of being running,
the tubes were cristal clear!!!!!!!!!!.
I�m so thankfull to you because i will finally use my lamp after a year or
so. Even do my fishes are healthier than ever I want to use it to control
algae from growing in my tank.
Thank you very much.
Marco
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