Amen.

Dave Fancella wrote:
> I like the direction, don't get me wrong.  I'm dreaming of the day
> when I have enough money to scatter a few inexpensive tablets with web
> browsers around my house.  With a web interface to MythTV, and a myth
> client, of course.  Then, home finance will be web-based (I'm using
> mint.com right now, even though I hate it), grocery lists, etc.  I'd
> love to take one with me to the grocery store, in fact.  I'd even
> happily write a web-based recipe manager that built my grocery lists
> (I've got a whole plan for it, but I need to finish my web-based
> personal finance app first).
>
> I can think of all sorts of ways my life would be easier if I had a
> small, inexpensive tablet to carry around that had 10 hours or so on a
> battery and booted up within a few seconds.  This is definitely the
> right direction, and the only software it *needs* is a web browser.
> The ability to download the data you need for a given task (or group
> of tasks), work with it, then sync it (the PalmOS workflow :)  ) would
> be a nice way to deal with the fact that there isn't net access
> everywhere.  But for the ones I leave on the coffee table, kitchen
> counter, and bathroom counter (for reading while um, er, nvm, for
> reading), they'll have net access, or at least LAN access to the stuff
> I need at home.
>
> What I don't like is the trend to store everything on google's
> servers.  If google gave me a way to back it up locally, it might be a
> different story (some automated way, not "do all your backups by
> hand", we all know that's no backup plan).  If google was providing
> the software so I could setup my own cloud server, fine.  But they're
> not doing that, are they?
>
> However, I trust the courthouse more than I trust Google, primarily
> because there's several hundred years of legal precedent on what the
> county clerks can and can't do with your private information.  We're
> still fighting to establish privacy rights with electronic data stored
> with private companies under varying contracts (or click-through
> EULAs).  So in case of disaster, it's clear whose responsible when
> it's the county courthouse.
>
> Dave
>
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> http://www.davefancella.com
>
> Also, I'm currently looking for a job.  So while you're at my website,
> look at my resume!
> http://www.davefancella.com/resume/dave.html
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Paul<[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> Steven,
>>
>> My guess is in a few years you wont need to install ubuntu or Vista or
>> X version of an OS. I think Google is setting themselves up to be the
>> OS and storage for you. So basically you would be purchasing a 'dumb'
>> piece of hardware which when connected to the internets will find all
>> your information. I both excited and afraid of this vision. This is
>> very similar to corporate networks where the desktop system are loaded
>> with high memory and processors but the smallest harddrives available
>> to force the user from storing local copies of files and to push
>> everything to the network storage. This makes backups and management
>> easier in some respects. I think if anyone can pull this off it will
>> be Google. Though worry about people referring to Google as the hated
>> Micosoft (or IBM) of the new Millinium.
>>
>> Another real pending issue we seem to have forgotten about here in
>> Austin is the potential that our respective network providers will
>> eventually start implementing usage caps per month. How is that going
>> to effect what you push to the cloud?
>>
>> Just my thoughts. Than again I'm on meds but the colors are tasty!
>>
>> P-
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Steven Harms wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I don't get the fuss.
>>>
>>> Today  I can buy a laptop, install ubuntu, install chrome.
>>>
>>> What's the improvement
>>>
>>> I can buy a laptop, the OS is hidden, it runs chrome.
>>>
>>>
>>> Goog says:  "we aim for netbooks".  Well, netbooks are tracking
>>> towards laptops, what's the fuss.
>>>
>>> Goog says:  "users want less startup time".  Well, OK, that's fine,
>>> but between 10 seconds and 1 minute I'm pretty forgiving and with a
>>> netbook battery i'm never at power off to boot, i'm usually at de-
>>> hibernate to use.  If that's sufficiently small, I'm OK.  Even on my
>>> macbook that's tolerable at the moment.
>>>
>>> Press says:  This will have MS shaking in their shoes.  Uh, no.  This
>>> has no traction in the enterprise.
>>>
>>> Now, launching this, on a branded netbook, with a support structure,
>>> with the Google app stack, with a way to get a secure cloud app stack,
>>> that would be an MS death blow (roll saving throw!), but this is sort
>>> of a "Oh, so you want to kill off the linux distributions?".
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Adam Theriault wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> password storage
>>>>>           
>>>> if I trust my bank to store a copy of my banking password on their
>>>> own servers, I can probably trust google with my facebook password.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> personally identifiable data
>>>>>           
>>>> ...such as using your full name to post a negative opinion of a
>>>> company using their groups app?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> sensitive legal documents
>>>>>           
>>>> Again, I probably trust google's datacenter more than the county
>>>> courthouse.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> files with family members' photos
>>>>>           
>>>> which are then posted online for everyone to see.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> identifiable information
>>>>>           
>>>> which is somehow different than the personally identifiable kind. I
>>>> guess cause it's information and not data. I'm just going to take a
>>>> leap of faith here and assume by "identifiable" we mean "porn".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> medical records
>>>>>           
>>>> which are stored off-site and accessible by medical employees around
>>>> the world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tend to go with Scott McNealy: "You have no privacy anyway, get
>>>> over it."
>>>>
>>>> Aside from having some weird EULA that says "by signing this you
>>>> agree to let us sell your medical records and family photos to
>>>> whatever sleazy guy in an alleyway we want to", I fail to see what
>>>> any company's motivation would be to get a massive market hooked on
>>>> a product, and then completely disable access to it and/or trigger
>>>> the most epic PR disaster in history.
>>>>
>>>> What really confuses me though is if people don't like it, they
>>>> don't have to use it...why is it important if anyone else is nervous
>>>> about it or not?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>       
>>     
>
> >
>   

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