No pressure, but...how did it go? Anyone have anything worth sharing as a result of last nights gathering?
kah On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Alex S. Jones <a...@silverspider.com>wrote: > I agree 100% with Ryan - everyone should feel free to set up quick informal > meetups with this group, it's an amazing way to work through a problem or > meet others interested in a topic. > > Keith, Pat and Buddy, sorry that you won't be able to join us. Between > those of us who do make it, we should be able to provide a good summary and > if this topic is an interesting one for the group, perhaps we'll set it up > as a topic at a future monthly meeting. > > Cheers, > > Alex Jones > www.SilverSpider.com > www.twitter.com/BaldMan > www.RefreshAustin.org > > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 11/18/09, 2:36 PM, Ryan Joy wrote: > > > The audio would be terrible from inside the beer garden and we're very > > likely going to stray back and forth from the topic of discussion. > > Such is the nature of informals. > > > > I'll definitely post anything that comes out of this. > > > > Also, anyone should feel free to organize informal meetups anytime you > > might have time or have an interesting problem to discuss. Just send a > > note to the group gauging interest in the topic/time/location. Even > > two Refreshers make it an informal. I try to come to these types of > > discussions whenever possible as it's the best way to get outside of > > the box that we all normally work in and see how our peers are doing it. > > > > -RYAN JOY > > http://twitter.com/atxryan > > 512.552.2687 mobile > > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Buddy wrote: > > > >> Anyway to record the conversation on your phone and post it as audio > >> somewhere? Would be great to listen in on as I can't make it either. > >> > >> Buddy > >> > >> On Nov 18, 11:30 am, Ryan Joy <atxr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Keith: I'm pretty much always up for tech talk, listening to how > >>> others are solving problems, and, of course, beers. > >>> > >>> This is an issue any organization faces as they increase deployments, > >>> whether they be more sections under the main website or they consist > >>> of more client sites that share functionality and, in some cases, > >>> common code. It sounds like your approach and mine are fairly in > >>> line. > >>> I'd love to chat with you in the future. > >>> > >>> Most of the existing frameworks I've found approach the problem from > >>> the angle of modifying the markup to use predefined CSS classes. I'm > >>> actually looking at something more like OOCSS and some aspects of > >>> Scaffold to reduce the need to change component markup, but to still > >>> allow many variations in look n' feel. Extensibility is also key. > >>> > >>> -RYAN JOY > >>> http://twitter.com/atxryan > >>> 512.552.2687 mobile > >>> > >>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Keith Aric Hall wrote: > >>> > >>>> Aww man! Sorry I am going to miss this one. This is an issue I am > >>>> currently dealing with. Currently, I am one of the few people with > >>>> CSS expertise on my product team, yet we have a ton of developer > >>>> that contribute to the CSS for our product. Developing standards is > >>>> something that we did not do early enough. We tried to institute an > >>>> OOCSS approach later on, but it was a bit too late in the game to do > >>>> it any justice. > >>> > >>>> We've learned a lot along these lines and have a much better idea of > >>>> how we need to "eat this elephant" the next go around. In particular > >>>> to me that means a lot of work upfront. Dissecting the UI to > >>>> determine common objects and their various uses, standardizing > >>>> naming conventions, namespacing classes, etc. to come up with a > >>>> truly workable OOCSS approach. Not to be overlooked is the use of > >>>> thirdparty frameworks like extjs, dojo, etc. which create their own > >>>> markup and can really create challenges in maintaining clean, > >>>> standardized code. > >>> > >>>> Take lots of notes please! I have a vested interest in the results > >>>> of this conversation. > >>> > >>>> kah > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Alex S. Jones > >>>> <a...@silverspider.com> wrote: > >>>> Ryan Joy and I will be at the Gingerman tonight (wednesday the 18th) > >>>> around 6 to talk about how to best organize, standardize and > >>>> normalize CSS within a large organization/across multiple sites. > >>>> This isn't a presentation, rather a discussion amongst any and all > >>>> interested in talking about the topic. > >>> > >>>> Please join us if this sounds interesting! > >>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>> > >>>> Alex Jones > >>>> www.SilverSpider.com > >>>> www.twitter.com/BaldMan > >>>> www.RefreshAustin.org > >>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > >>> > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Refresh Austin" group. > >>> > >>>> [ Posting ] > >>>> To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > >>>> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/ > >>>> refreshaustinjobspolicy > >>>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > >>> > >>>> [ Unsubscribe ] > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >>> > >>>> [ More Info ] > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > >>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Keith Aric Hall > >>> > >>>> http://www.keitharichall.com/ > >>>> twitter: keitharichall > >>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > >>> > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Refresh Austin" group. > >>> > >>>> [ Posting ] > >>>> To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > >>>> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/ > >>>> refreshaustinjobspolicy > >>>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > >>> > >>>> [ Unsubscribe ] > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >>> > >>>> [ More Info ] > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > >> > >> -- > >> Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Refresh Austin" group. > >> > >> [ Posting ] > >> To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > >> Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/ > >> refreshaustinjobspolicy > >> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > >> > >> [ Unsubscribe ] > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> > >> [ More Info ] > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > > > -- > > Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Refresh Austin" group. > > > > [ Posting ] > > To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > > Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > > We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > > > [ Unsubscribe ] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > [ More Info ] > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > -- > Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Refresh Austin" group. > > [ Posting ] > To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > Job-related postings should follow http://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > [ Unsubscribe ] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > [ More Info ] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > -- Keith Aric Hall http://www.keitharichall.com/ twitter: keitharichall -- Our Web site: http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Refresh Austin" group. 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