Alex told me about CSScaffold, which I'm definitely checking out. On Nov 19, 9:44 am, Keith Aric Hall <khall...@gmail.com> wrote: > No pressure, but...how did it go? Anyone have anything worth sharing as a > result of last nights gathering? > > kah > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Alex S. Jones <a...@silverspider.com>wrote: > > > > > I agree 100% with Ryan - everyone should feel free to set up quick informal > > meetups with this group, it's an amazing way to work through a problem or > > meet others interested in a topic. > > > Keith, Pat and Buddy, sorry that you won't be able to join us. Between > > those of us who do make it, we should be able to provide a good summary and > > if this topic is an interesting one for the group, perhaps we'll set it up > > as a topic at a future monthly meeting. > > > Cheers, > > > Alex Jones > >www.SilverSpider.com > >www.twitter.com/BaldMan > >www.RefreshAustin.org > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 11/18/09, 2:36 PM, Ryan Joy wrote: > > > > The audio would be terrible from inside the beer garden and we're very > > > likely going to stray back and forth from the topic of discussion. > > > Such is the nature of informals. > > > > I'll definitely post anything that comes out of this. > > > > Also, anyone should feel free to organize informal meetups anytime you > > > might have time or have an interesting problem to discuss. Just send a > > > note to the group gauging interest in the topic/time/location. Even > > > two Refreshers make it an informal. I try to come to these types of > > > discussions whenever possible as it's the best way to get outside of > > > the box that we all normally work in and see how our peers are doing it. > > > > -RYAN JOY > > > http://twitter.com/atxryan > > > 512.552.2687 mobile > > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Buddy wrote: > > > >> Anyway to record the conversation on your phone and post it as audio > > >> somewhere? Would be great to listen in on as I can't make it either. > > > >> Buddy > > > >> On Nov 18, 11:30 am, Ryan Joy <atxr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> Keith: I'm pretty much always up for tech talk, listening to how > > >>> others are solving problems, and, of course, beers. > > > >>> This is an issue any organization faces as they increase deployments, > > >>> whether they be more sections under the main website or they consist > > >>> of more client sites that share functionality and, in some cases, > > >>> common code. It sounds like your approach and mine are fairly in > > >>> line. > > >>> I'd love to chat with you in the future. > > > >>> Most of the existing frameworks I've found approach the problem from > > >>> the angle of modifying the markup to use predefined CSS classes. I'm > > >>> actually looking at something more like OOCSS and some aspects of > > >>> Scaffold to reduce the need to change component markup, but to still > > >>> allow many variations in look n' feel. Extensibility is also key. > > > >>> -RYAN JOY > > >>> http://twitter.com/atxryan > > >>> 512.552.2687 mobile > > > >>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Keith Aric Hall wrote: > > > >>>> Aww man! Sorry I am going to miss this one. This is an issue I am > > >>>> currently dealing with. Currently, I am one of the few people with > > >>>> CSS expertise on my product team, yet we have a ton of developer > > >>>> that contribute to the CSS for our product. Developing standards is > > >>>> something that we did not do early enough. We tried to institute an > > >>>> OOCSS approach later on, but it was a bit too late in the game to do > > >>>> it any justice. > > > >>>> We've learned a lot along these lines and have a much better idea of > > >>>> how we need to "eat this elephant" the next go around. In particular > > >>>> to me that means a lot of work upfront. Dissecting the UI to > > >>>> determine common objects and their various uses, standardizing > > >>>> naming conventions, namespacing classes, etc. to come up with a > > >>>> truly workable OOCSS approach. Not to be overlooked is the use of > > >>>> thirdparty frameworks like extjs, dojo, etc. which create their own > > >>>> markup and can really create challenges in maintaining clean, > > >>>> standardized code. > > > >>>> Take lots of notes please! I have a vested interest in the results > > >>>> of this conversation. > > > >>>> kah > > > >>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Alex S. Jones > > >>>> <a...@silverspider.com> wrote: > > >>>> Ryan Joy and I will be at the Gingerman tonight (wednesday the 18th) > > >>>> around 6 to talk about how to best organize, standardize and > > >>>> normalize CSS within a large organization/across multiple sites. > > >>>> This isn't a presentation, rather a discussion amongst any and all > > >>>> interested in talking about the topic. > > > >>>> Please join us if this sounds interesting! > > > >>>> Cheers, > > > >>>> Alex Jones > > >>>>www.SilverSpider.com > > >>>>www.twitter.com/BaldMan > > >>>>www.RefreshAustin.org > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>> Groups "Refresh Austin" group. > > > >>>> [ Posting ] > > >>>> To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > > >>>> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/ > > >>>> refreshaustinjobspolicy > > >>>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > > >>>> [ Unsubscribe ] > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > >>>> [ More Info ] > > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Keith Aric Hall > > > >>>>http://www.keitharichall.com/ > > >>>> twitter: keitharichall > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>> Groups "Refresh Austin" group. > > > >>>> [ Posting ] > > >>>> To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > > >>>> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/ > > >>>> refreshaustinjobspolicy > > >>>> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > > >>>> [ Unsubscribe ] > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > >>>> [ More Info ] > > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > > >> -- > > >> Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "Refresh Austin" group. > > > >> [ Posting ] > > >> To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > > >> Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/ > > >> refreshaustinjobspolicy > > >> We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > > >> [ Unsubscribe ] > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > >> [ More Info ] > > >> For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > > > -- > > > Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Refresh Austin" group. > > > > [ Posting ] > > > To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > > > Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > > > We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > > > [ Unsubscribe ] > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > [ More Info ] > > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > > -- > > Our Web site:http://www.RefreshAustin.org/ > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Refresh Austin" group. > > > [ Posting ] > > To post to this group, send email to Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > > Job-related postings should followhttp://tr.im/refreshaustinjobspolicy > > We do not accept job posts from recruiters. > > > [ Unsubscribe ] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > refresh-austin-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > [ More Info ] > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Refresh-Austin > > -- > Keith Aric Hall > > http://www.keitharichall.com/ > twitter: keitharichall
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