I think Andy's right about this. We don't need to wait.

Scott

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> Thanks for this Andy.  Very helpful.
>
> The Chairs would very much appreciate other comments regarding whether or
> not to actually delay the redacted draft based on the format discussion.
>
> Note that we’re “waiting” now on the shepherd process regardless, but if the
> WG can resolve this question of “delay” before the shepherd is done we’ll be
> able to move this document along as soon as it’s ready.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Antoin and Jim
>
>
>
> On 26 Jun 2023, at 10:38, Andrew Newton wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 9:49 AM James Galvin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> 2. Andy Newton needs to confirm on the list that all of his concerns have
> been addressed.  Tom Harrison has already indicated that his concerns have
> been addressed.
> >
> > My apologies. I confirm my concerns have been addressed.
> >
> >>
> >> The Chairs would also like to note that given the new discussion regarding
> jCard vs jsContact vs SimpleContact, that we will be delaying the actual
> submission of this document to the IESG until that discussion resolves.  It 
> seems
> prudent to make sure there is no impact to the “redacted” document as a
> result of the format discussion before we submit it to the IESG.
> >>
> >
> > I appreciate the prudence, and practically it may not matter if
> > submission to the IESG is delayed given the dependency on JSONPath and
> > IESG workload. That said, I do not believe this is necessary. Let me
> > explain.
> >
> > Much of the complexity in the RDAP redaction spec has to do with
> > getting around weird things in jCard, but as Marc has pointed out,
> > jCard will be with us for the foreseeable future. Though I strongly
> > suspect redaction will be easier with a theoretical SimpleContact, it
> > could be quite some time before we know that. And the RDAP redaction
> > spec covers more than contact data, so it is useful outside of the
> > contact data discussions.
> >
> > The complications with redaction with regard to JSContact center
> > around client processing of JSContact patch objects before, after or
> > during client processing of the redaction directives. This is
> > something the JSContact drafts could specify without need to modify
> > the RDAP redaction, IMHO. I believe the UID issue has been resolved.
> > Finally, JSContact may take some time to get to the publication point
> > considering its dependency.
> >
> > That's my opinion. Maybe others see it differently.
> >
> > -andy
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