Thomas,

The issue here is that if ICANN requires the extension to be registered, and 
the extension is an abandoned IETF draft, then the namespace would need to be 
registered with the MUST language.  The alternative approach is to clone the 
IETF draft as a proprietary extension.  The proprietary extensions should not 
include an ietf namespace, but we've seen that occur with 
draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap.  Changing the namespace is a material impact to the 
server and the clients that chose to implement a draft that was abandoned prior 
to becoming an RFC.  I don't recommend creating a set of proprietary extensions 
of abandoned drafts that then can be registered in the extension registry.  

The TANGO IDN extension is a pure proprietary extension using a custom 
namespace, so there is no issue with registering it.  As noted, the 
implementation of an abandoned draft is a corner case that can't be ignored 
with the requirement to register implemented extensions in RST 2.0.  The SHOULD 
language in draft-ietf-regext-ext-registry-epp provides the needed guidance 
while covering the corner case.  

Another important aspect is that we should encourage more registrations of 
implemented EPP extensions than less.  Based on the EPP Extensibility and 
Extension analysis, we analyzed 67 EPP extensions and there are only 39 
registered EPP extensions in the registry.  I view having the registration as 
less glorifying but providing visibility to registries and registrars of the 
implemented EPP extension.    

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JG 



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On 10/21/25, 10:00 AM, "Thomas Corte (TANGO support)" <[email protected] 
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Hello,


James Gould wrote:


>> The ICANN RST 2.0 requires for the extensions to be
>> registered in the EPP extension registry, which then required the 
>> registration of
>> the implemented "Verification Code Extension for the Extensible Provisioning
>> Protocol (EPP)" (draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode-06) that would not be 
>> able to
>> register the IETF namespace. I believe the same use case applies to the
>> abandoned IDN Mapping draft in draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap-02, which has been
>> implemented by many registries and registrars. Changing of the namespace is
>> not an option based on the implementation impact and interoperability with 
>> the
>> registrars. This is a true corner case, but it needs to be covered with a 
>> SHOULD
>> instead of a MUST.


I'm aware that ICANN requires registration in the EPP XML registry, but do they 
also strictly 
require the *namespace* to be registered as well? I happened to do both for our 
recent registration 
of the TANGO IDN extension, but I *think* ICANN would be OK with only the 
extension being registered.


Scott Hollenbeck wrote:


> [SAH] I could use some additional perspectives on this, people. Andy is 
> saying MUST. Jim is saying SHOULD. More input would be helpful.


Assuming that ICANN accepts registered extensions whose namespace isn't also 
registered, I'd tend to 
go with MUST, if only to avoid "glorifying" abandoned extensions via an IETF 
namespace in the registry.


/Thomas


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