Hi Kaveh,

On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 05:29:38PM +0100, Kaveh Ranjbar wrote:
> I think one word has been doing too much work in this exchange, and
> your LACNIC example is what made it clear to me, so thank you for
> it.
> 
> I have not been proposing the relation in place of the redirect. I
> have been proposing it on top of one. The registry still redirects
> for transport, so an unchanged client asking for the more specific
> resource lands on the holder's record exactly as it does today. That
> is the whole of your backwards compatibility concern, and I want to
> meet it head on: the most specific answer stays reachable with no
> client change. rdap-base-down is not the path to that answer, it is
> a second, optional thing on the covering object that says a
> subordinate service exists and lets a client that cares enumerate
> and cross the boundary deliberately. no_redirects is the third
> piece, for a client that wants the registry's own record as well as
> the child's. Redirect for compatibility, relation for discovery,
> flag for the parent. Not one instead of another.
> 
> On registro.br, I read that as the in-system case rather than a
> counter to it. registro.br is a registry, and LACNIC redirects to it
> because LACNIC has been configured to: the pointer lives in the
> system and the bootstrap-plus-redirect chain reaches it. That is
> exactly the RIR and NIR situation I agreed needs no new machinery.
> The case the draft is scoped to is narrower: a holder running RDAP
> for delegations below its own allocation, records the RIR keeps out
> of its database by design, on a server no one has configured the RIR
> to point at. Where the holder does register that pointer with the
> registry, I am happy for the server to redirect, and to say so with
> a MUST, which I think is the requirement you asked for earlier. What
> the relation adds in that case is only what the bare redirect cannot
> give: that a delegation exists at all, and that answering it crossed
> out of the registry's own data.
> 
> So I think we are closer than the last few mails suggest. If I write
> -01 as "the server MUST still redirect, and MAY additionally
> advertise rdap-base-down, with no_redirects available to a client
> that wants both records," does that resolve the compatibility
> objection for you?

Yep, that sounds fine to me, thanks.

-Tom

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