On formal names we certainly could require that they be unique.  Right now they 
are part of the user profile for a mashup, but if they were baked into the data 
model it would be easy to add and enforce a uniqueness constraint.

In the short run, perhaps we should simply yank formal names from the interface 
completely.

Jonathan Marsh - http://www.wso2.com - http://auburnmarshes.spaces.live.com
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Sanjiva Weerawarana
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mashup-dev] RE: [Registry-dev] svn commit r11161 -
> trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc
> 
> +1 to making this consistent. I kinda like having my tags be "normal"
> ..
> but happy to live with case normalization and whitespace normalization
> (to
> one space). However, I can see the simplicity of Jonathan's patterns
> too.
> 
> So, if this comes to a vote I vote +1 for the reg style instead of the
> mashup style but can easily live (happily ever after) with the mashup
> style too.
> 
> On names- Jonathan we cannot possible require unique formal names
> right??
> As such I suggest in our advanced search form we allow people to search
> in
> that field too. Not sure how our naming strategy could allow naming
> conflicts or spoofing attacks (?).
> 
> Sanjiva.
> 
> Jonathan Marsh wrote:
> > We should have a consistent interface to tagging between the registry
> > and mashup server.  Basically we need to have a consistent strategy
> > for: 1) what characters are allowed in a tag, 2) to what extent the
> tag
> > is normalized upon entry, and 3) how much freedom there is in
> searching
> > for a tag (e.g. whitespace differences, case differences).
> >
> > It sounds like you've answered these points as: 1) any character is
> > allowed, including whitespace, but disallowing commas. 2) comma
> > separated lists are split into individual tags.  Whitespace is
> > normalized (in the xml sense) I hope? 3) Case insensitive matches?
> >
> > That's slightly different than I had planned for the mashup server:
> 1)
> > non-punctuation characters allowed only (no whitespace), plus maybe a
> > few useful symbols like "_". 2) cases are folded (lowercase),
> > whitespace-separated lists are split into individual tags (unless
> > quoted e.g. 'wso2 "open source"' --> {"wso2", "opensource"},
> whitespace
> > and punctuation stripped ('"Chathura's party"' -->
> {"chathurasparty"}).
> >  3) searching is an exact match of the normalized search string with
> > the normalized tag value.
> >
> > Both approaches are coherent, and appear successful on the web.  The
> > first approach maximally preserves the user's input at the expense of
> > making matching tags harder to implement and possibly a bit more
> > fragile.  The second approach makes searching more robust and
> > predictable at the expense of preserving the user's input.
> >
> > Maybe there's even a middle approach that we could bake further down
> > into the registry - store the tag value in two fields in the table -
> > one preserving the users input, and one containing a heavily
> normalized
> > version that we can easily search on.  Normalize the input to
> getTags,
> > but also expose the utility normalizing function so that executeQuery
> > users can still do good tag matches.
> >
> > P.S. we have similar issue with user names - right now one searches
> for
> > mashups from a particular user by their username (e.g. admin) rather
> > than their formal name (Jonathan Marsh) even though the username only
> > appears in the UI in urls.  And we don't enforce unique formal names
> at
> > present which could result in name conflicts or even spoofing
> attacks.
> >
> > Jonathan Marsh - http://www.wso2.com -
> > http://auburnmarshes.spaces.live.com
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:registry-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:04 AM To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: [Registry-dev] svn commit r11161 -
> >> trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc
> >>
> >> Author: chathura Date: Sat Dec 15 06:04:21 2007 New Revision: 11161
> >>
> >> Log:
> >>
> >>
> >> Now multiple tags has to be separeted using commas. That means, you
> >> can apply tags with spaces in them (e.g. Sri Lanka)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Modified:
> >>
> >>
> trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe
> >>  gistry.java
> >>
> >> Modified:
> >>
> trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe
> >>  gistry.java
> >>
> =======================================================================
> >>  ======= ---
> >>
> trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe
> >>  gistry.java       (original) +++
> >>
> trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe
> >>  gistry.java       Sat Dec 15 06:04:21 2007 @@ -444,8 +444,8 @@
> >>
> >> String userID = User.getCurrentUser();
> >>
> >> -        // break the space separated words into multiple tags -
> >> String[] tags = tag.split(" "); +        // break the comma
> separated
> >> words into multiple tags +        String[] tags = tag.split(",");
> >>
> >> try { conn.setAutoCommit(false); @@ -458,6 +458,8 @@
> >>
> >> for (int i = 0; i < tags.length; i++) {
> >>
> >> +                tags[i] = tags[i].trim(); + if (tags[i].length() ==
> >> 0 || tags[i].equals(" ")) { continue; } @@ -504,7 +506,7 @@ public
> >> TaggedResourcePath[] getResourcePathsWithTag(String tag) throws
> >> RegistryException {
> >>
> >> // break the tags from spaces -        String[] tags =
> >> tag.trim().split(" "); +        String[] tags =
> >> tag.trim().split(",");
> >>
> >> //List pathList = new ArrayList(); List taggedPaths = new
> >> ArrayList(); @@ -521,6 +523,7 @@
> >> taggedResourcePath.setResourcePath(path);
> >>
> >> for (int i = 0; i < tags.length; i++) { +                    tags[i]
> >> = tags[i].trim(); long count = tagsDAO.getTagCount(path, tags[i],
> >> conn); taggedResourcePath.addTagCount(tags[i], count); }
> >>
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