+1 for yanking 'em for now. However, I fail to see what we'd gain by requiring uniqueness of formal names. For example, what do we want to tell all the John Smith's of the world?? Its bad enough they have to pick whacky user names such as "smith90210" - but to tell them they can't call themselves "John Smith" seems rather harsh.

I must be missing something.

Sanjiva.

Jonathan Marsh wrote:
On formal names we certainly could require that they be unique.  Right
now they are part of the user profile for a mashup, but if they were
baked into the data model it would be easy to add and enforce a
uniqueness constraint.

In the short run, perhaps we should simply yank formal names from the
interface completely.

Jonathan Marsh - http://www.wso2.com -
http://auburnmarshes.spaces.live.com


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+1 to making this consistent. I kinda like having my tags be "normal"
 .. but happy to live with case normalization and whitespace
normalization (to one space). However, I can see the simplicity of
Jonathan's patterns too.

So, if this comes to a vote I vote +1 for the reg style instead of
the mashup style but can easily live (happily ever after) with the
mashup style too.

On names- Jonathan we cannot possible require unique formal names right?? As such I suggest in our advanced search form we allow people
to search in that field too. Not sure how our naming strategy could
allow naming conflicts or spoofing attacks (?).

Sanjiva.

Jonathan Marsh wrote:
We should have a consistent interface to tagging between the
registry and mashup server.  Basically we need to have a consistent
strategy for: 1) what characters are allowed in a tag, 2) to what
extent the
tag
is normalized upon entry, and 3) how much freedom there is in
searching
for a tag (e.g. whitespace differences, case differences).

It sounds like you've answered these points as: 1) any character is
allowed, including whitespace, but disallowing commas. 2) comma separated lists are split into individual tags. Whitespace is normalized (in the xml sense) I hope? 3) Case insensitive matches?

That's slightly different than I had planned for the mashup server:

1)
non-punctuation characters allowed only (no whitespace), plus maybe
a few useful symbols like "_". 2) cases are folded (lowercase), whitespace-separated lists are split into individual tags (unless quoted e.g. 'wso2 "open source"' --> {"wso2", "opensource"},
whitespace
and punctuation stripped ('"Chathura's party"' -->
{"chathurasparty"}).
3) searching is an exact match of the normalized search string with
 the normalized tag value.

Both approaches are coherent, and appear successful on the web.
The first approach maximally preserves the user's input at the
expense of making matching tags harder to implement and possibly a
bit more fragile.  The second approach makes searching more robust
and predictable at the expense of preserving the user's input.

Maybe there's even a middle approach that we could bake further
down into the registry - store the tag value in two fields in the
table - one preserving the users input, and one containing a
heavily
normalized
version that we can easily search on.  Normalize the input to
getTags,
but also expose the utility normalizing function so that
executeQuery users can still do good tag matches.

P.S. we have similar issue with user names - right now one searches

for
mashups from a particular user by their username (e.g. admin)
rather than their formal name (Jonathan Marsh) even though the
username only appears in the UI in urls.  And we don't enforce
unique formal names
at
present which could result in name conflicts or even spoofing
attacks.
Jonathan Marsh - http://www.wso2.com - http://auburnmarshes.spaces.live.com


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Author: chathura Date: Sat Dec 15 06:04:21 2007 New Revision:
11161

Log:


Now multiple tags has to be separeted using commas. That means,
you can apply tags with spaces in them (e.g. Sri Lanka)



Modified:


trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe

gistry.java

Modified:

trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe

gistry.java

=======================================================================

======= ---

trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe

gistry.java     (original) +++

trunk/registry/modules/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/registry/jdbc/JDBCRe

gistry.java     Sat Dec 15 06:04:21 2007 @@ -444,8 +444,8 @@

String userID = User.getCurrentUser();

- // break the space separated words into multiple tags - String[] tags = tag.split(" "); + // break the comma
separated
words into multiple tags +        String[] tags = tag.split(",");


try { conn.setAutoCommit(false); @@ -458,6 +458,8 @@

for (int i = 0; i < tags.length; i++) {

+                tags[i] = tags[i].trim(); + if (tags[i].length()
== 0 || tags[i].equals(" ")) { continue; } @@ -504,7 +506,7 @@
public TaggedResourcePath[] getResourcePathsWithTag(String tag)
throws RegistryException {

// break the tags from spaces - String[] tags = tag.trim().split(" "); + String[] tags = tag.trim().split(",");

//List pathList = new ArrayList(); List taggedPaths = new ArrayList(); @@ -521,6 +523,7 @@ taggedResourcePath.setResourcePath(path);

for (int i = 0; i < tags.length; i++) { +
tags[i] = tags[i].trim(); long count = tagsDAO.getTagCount(path,
tags[i], conn); taggedResourcePath.addTagCount(tags[i], count); }


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