Hi Edward

Well, I'm sorry about my absence of knowledge of the details of the
Pymol licensing... I'm not so much of a developer and obviously often
see things much simpler than they are.

I just wanted to throw the idea about Pymol.

Cheers


Sebastien  :)




Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
> On 10/27/06, Sebastien Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all !
>>
>>  I also like the Tensor representation of the diffusion tensor.
>>
>>  If Molmol is a problem for connectivities and heteroatoms, why not
>> change
>> relax to output script for Pymol instead of Molmol ? This is just a
>> proposition since I'm a Pymol user...  ;)
>>
>>  http://pymol.sourceforge.net/
>>
>>  Pymol is open source, fully scriptable, written in Python and can
>> run on
>> either Linux, Windows or Mac...
>
> I use PyMOL as well, the graphics are much better.  However I have
> tried getting relax to interface with PyMOL but this has been
> problematic.  Essentially to access the internals of PyMOL, relax
> would have to run within PyMOL's python prompt as a PyMOL plugin.  The
> same situation occurs with VMD.  Molmol on the other hand can be
> controlled from within relax.
>
> To use these molecular viewers relax must be able to control them -
> not the other way around where the viewers control relax (which, in
> the case of PyMOL and VMD, is probably not too difficult).  If someone
> knows how to control PyMOL or VMD, or any other molecular viewing
> program, to generate images using the data in relax, and would like to
> add the feature into relax, that would very much be welcome.  Much of
> the code used to generate the Molmol images can be used to generate
> images in other programs.  The ultimate solution would be to have
> PyMOL expose it's API to the command prompt or to expose it's python
> interface to the prompt to allow relax to feed commands into it.  Btw,
> I'm not a fan of turning relax into multiple plugins for different
> programs just to make this work.
>
> Edward
>
>
> P.S.   Please excuse the following rant!  On another note, one thing
> with PyMOL that I don't like is that it is dual licenced.  Normally
> this isn't an issue.  However they force PyMOL developers to transfer
> the copyright of their own independently created works to DeLano
> Scientific LLC.  Then DeLano Scientific LLC benfits from your hard
> work (while you get nothing) by licencing and selling your work in the
> non open source version.  It probably also legally means that you can
> never use the work you have 'given away' for anything else!  And
> legally if you have taken that code from another project of yours,
> then you may have lost ownership of that as well!  You aren't giving a
> licence to your work to DeLano Scientific LLC, you're permanently
> giving them the ownership of it.  This is not how a normal open source
> community is supposed to work.
>

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