Edward, I used relax-1.3_tickcount_fix.Darwin.dmg.
I really appreciate you are working on this. Thanks, Dhanas On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: > Hi Dhanas, > > Could you say which DMG file you are using? I'm currently building an > entirely new Mac 'Framework' for Python/numpy/scipy/wxPython, and > hopefully I can use this to produce a working relax app for Lion > users. > > Cheers, > > Edward > > > > On 5 April 2012 19:41, Muthu, Dhanasekaran - (dhanas) > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Edward, >> >> It is not working on my Mac machine running Lion. The icon bounces few times >> after double clicking. But do nothing. >> >> -Dhanas Muthu >> >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Send relax-users mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of relax-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> (Edward d'Auvergne) >>> 2. Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> (Martin Ballaschk) >>> 3. Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> (Ben Eisenbraun) >>> 4. Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> (Edward d'Auvergne) >>> 5. Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> (Edward d'Auvergne) >>> 6. Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> (Ben Eisenbraun) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:31:53 +0200 >>> From: "Edward d'Auvergne" <[email protected]> >>> To: Ben Eisenbraun <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAED9pY_8JZLPeCxbwKdRDQaZrd6scOqW0dXG5Sk51=fdope...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have now created a little ugly hack in the relax main 1.3 line to >>> work around the Mac Application problem with the missing >>> Carbon.Evt.TickCount error message (due to Python version issues). >>> This is as I described at >>> https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2012-04/msg00021.html, the >>> command line argument emulation has been turned off relax now works >>> around this. I have created a special relax application DMG file for >>> testing at http://download.gna.org/relax/. The temporary file is >>> called relax-1.3_tickcount_fix.Darwin.dmg (with a md5sum of >>> d2b2c4455ea9783023d81e096e22072f). Could I ask anyone who is >>> suffering from, or who can trigger, this TickCount problem if you >>> could check and see if the problem is now eliminated? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Edward >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5 April 2012 10:33, Edward d'Auvergne <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> >>>> Thank you for that info, that will really help in solving some of >>>> these problems! ?I never though that one of the issues is that of the >>>> machine architecture. ?This is obviously a multi-layer, i.e. not just >>>> one failure point, problem with the py2app script for converting >>>> Python programs/scripts into full Mac Applications >>>> (http://wiki.python.org/moin/MacPython/py2app, >>>> http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app/py2app/trunk/doc/index.html). ?I might >>>> have to approach this in a number of ways, some fixes will probably >>>> allow relax to run for some Mac users while others will not be so >>>> lucky. ?In the first attack, I will try to eliminate this TickCount >>>> problem. ?This seams to be a problem with program argument emulation >>>> on the Mac with certain Python versions. ?A solution is posted at >>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3461983/evt-tickcount-not-found-with-python2-6-on-osx-10-6-3, >>>> where the suggested code is: >>>> >>>> APP = ['MyApp.py'] >>>> OPTIONS = { >>>> ? 'argv_emulation': False, >>>> ? ... >>>> } >>>> >>>> setup( >>>> ? ?app=APP, >>>> ? ?options={'py2app': OPTIONS}, >>>> ? ?setup_requires=['py2app'], >>>> ) >>>> >>>> In relax's py2app setup.py script, the 'argv_emulation' is currently >>>> set to True (see >>>> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/relax/1.3/setup.py?revision=15481&content-type=text%2Fplain). >>>> ?relax currently requires arguments, but maybe I can hack the code to >>>> catch this and skip the argument processing. ?But only for this >>>> situation as the prompt/scripting UI modes will be important for some >>>> users. >>>> >>>> This fix doesn't solve the problem of the py2app created relax app not >>>> using the bundled Python version and internal Python modules, so some >>>> users will still be affected by that. ?For some people this is not an >>>> issue while for others it causes relax to fail. >>>> >>>> A third problem might be in the wxPython code, as was seen and >>>> reported by Jack Howarth when creating the Fink distribution of relax >>>> (see the threads starting at >>>> https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2012-03/msg00053.html and >>>> https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2012-04/msg00003.html, and >>>> http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/browse.php?name=relax). ?This will >>>> probably also affect those who install relax from the sources >>>> distribution file >>>> (http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html#Source_code_release). ?The >>>> problem might require a workaround inside the relax GUI code. ?I will >>>> try to tackle each problem one by one, and hopefully as each is solved >>>> more and more users will have luck in running relax in GUI mode on the >>>> Mac. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Edward >>>> >>>> >>>> P. S. ?For those users who can currently run the relax application in >>>> GUI mode from the DMG file, these fixes should not affect you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 18:58, Ben Eisenbraun <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi Edward, >>>>> >>>>> I am seeing the same issues reported by others. >>>>> >>>>> ?$ open /programs/i386-mac/relax/1.3.14/relax.app >>>>> >>>>> Output in Console.app: >>>>> >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.639 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: Traceback >>>>> (most recent call last): >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.639 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: ? File >>>>> "/nfs/programs/i386-mac/relax/1.3.14/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", >>>>> line 126, in <module> >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.640 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: ? ? >>>>> _argv_emulation() >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.640 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: ? File >>>>> "/nfs/programs/i386-mac/relax/1.3.14/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", >>>>> line 124, in _argv_emulation >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.640 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: ? ? >>>>> _get_argvemulator().mainloop() >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.640 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: ? File >>>>> "/nfs/programs/i386-mac/relax/1.3.14/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", >>>>> line 63, in mainloop >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.640 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: ? ? stoptime >>>>> = Evt.TickCount() + timeout >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.640 PM [0x0-0x18a28a1].com.nmr-relax.relax: >>>>> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount' >>>>> 4/4/12 12:15:26.715 PM relax: relax Error >>>>> >>>>> This is a problem related to Carbon support in 32-bit vs 64-bit Python. I >>>>> can reproduce this on the command line in 10.6 and 10.7 like so: >>>>> >>>>> ?$ type python >>>>> python is hashed (/usr/bin/python) >>>>> ?$ python >>>>> Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Jun 16 2011, 16:59:05) >>>>> [GCC 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.15.00)] on >>>>> darwin >>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>>>>>> from Carbon import Evt >>>>>>>> Evt.TickCount() >>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>> ?File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> >>>>> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount' >>>>> >>>>> And it's because the 64-bit Python doesn't have full Carbon support: >>>>> >>>>> ?$ export VERSIONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT=true >>>>> ?$ python >>>>> Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Jun 16 2011, 16:59:06) >>>>> [GCC 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.15.00)] on >>>>> darwin >>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>>>>>> from Carbon import Evt >>>>>>>> Evt.TickCount() >>>>> 278493166 >>>>> >>>>> Similar thread here: >>>>> >>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3461983/evt-tickcount-not-found-with-python2-6-on-osx-10-6-3 >>>>> >>>>> I can run the relax binary directly if I force 32-bit: >>>>> >>>>> ?$ arch -i386 relax.app/Contents/MacOS/relax >>>>> >>>>> And I can get the relax.app bundle to work if I lipo the relax binary: >>>>> >>>>> ?$ mv relax relax.orig >>>>> ?$ lipo -thin i386 -output relax relax.orig >>>>> >>>>> I tried various other ways of forcing 32-bitness for Python: lipo'ing the >>>>> python binaries, export VERISONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT=true, >>>>> LSArchitecturePriority in the Info.plist without effect. >>>>> >>>>> -ben >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> | Ben Eisenbraun >>>>> | SBGrid Consortium ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| http://sbgrid.org ? ? ? | >>>>> | Harvard Medical School ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | http://hms.harvard.edu ?| >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:47:47 +0200 >>> From: Martin Ballaschk <[email protected]> >>> To: "Edward d'Auvergne" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>> >>> >>> Hi Edward, >>> >>> On 05.04.2012, at 15:31, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: >>> >>>> Could I ask anyone who is >>>> suffering from, or who can trigger, this TickCount problem if you >>>> could check and see if the problem is now eliminated? >>> >>> Still failing here: >>> >>> $ open relax.app >>> >>> Console errors: >>> 05.04.12 15:42:38,708 [0x0-0x625625].com.nmr-relax.relax: Please install >>> the wx Python module to access the relax GUI. >>> >>> $ cd /Applications/relax.app/Contents/MacOS/ >>> $ ./relax >>> Please install the wx Python module to access the relax GUI. >>> $ ./python >>> python: posix_spawn: /Applications/relax.app/Contents/MacOS/python2.6: No >>> such file or directory >>> >>> >>> >>> But when forcing 32bit/i386 by using "arch" it works. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Martin Ballaschk >>> AG Schmieder >>> Leibniz-Institut f?r Molekulare Pharmakologie >>> Robert-R?ssle-Str. 10 >>> 13125 Berlin >>> [email protected] >>> Tel.: +49-30-94793-234/315 >>> B?ro: A 1.26 >>> Labor: C 1.10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:20:54 -0400 >>> From: Ben Eisenbraun <[email protected]> >>> To: "Edward d'Auvergne" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi Edward, >>> >>>> A solution is posted at >>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3461983/evt-tickcount-not-found-with-python2-6-on-osx-10-6-3, >>> >>> I saw that suggestion when I read the thread yesterday. If you're willing >>> to give up the 64-bit version, this thread might also be useful: >>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7472301/how-to-force-py2app-to-run-app-in-32-bit-mode >>> >>>> This fix doesn't solve the problem of the py2app created relax app not >>>> using the bundled Python version and internal Python modules, so some >>>> users will still be affected by that. >>> >>> Yesterday when I was looking at this, I added a 'print sys.executable' to >>> __boot__.py and got: >>> >>> 4/4/12 12:40:10.353 PM [0x0-0x18ac8ab].com.nmr-relax.relax: >>> /nfs/programs/i386-mac/relax/1.3.14/relax.app/Contents/MacOS/python >>> >>> And it doesn't change regardless of what PythonExecutable or >>> PyRunTimeLocation is set to in the Info.plist. So it appears that it is >>> calling the correct binary, but the Contents/MacOS/python is just a binary >>> wrapper for some other python? I suppose I should read the py2app docs at >>> some point. >>> >>> -ben >>> >>> -- >>> | Ben Eisenbraun >>> | SBGrid Consortium | http://sbgrid.org | >>> | Harvard Medical School | http://hms.harvard.edu | >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:49:08 +0200 >>> From: "Edward d'Auvergne" <[email protected]> >>> To: Ben Eisenbraun <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> Message-ID: >>> <caed9py-023fueuhgvpdvwdk7r3rwxybn_klyv+yoom5wzwa...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>>>> A solution is posted at >>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3461983/evt-tickcount-not-found-with-python2-6-on-osx-10-6-3, >>>> >>>> I saw that suggestion when I read the thread yesterday. If you're willing >>>> to give up the 64-bit version, this thread might also be useful: >>>> >>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7472301/how-to-force-py2app-to-run-app-in-32-bit-mode >>> >>> Is it worth having a 64-bit x86 version? Would any Mac users need or >>> use this? I was hoping to distribute a working Universal binary. >>> Forcing the i386 architecture may cause problems for people on old ppc >>> machines, so I would like to find a more elegant solution than forcing >>> i386 on all Mac users. I could set the LSArchitecturePriority >>> Info.plist value to i386 and ppc in the py2app 'setup.py' script and >>> then recreate the app, then maybe this would be a solution. But there >>> must be a better way. >>> >>> >>>>> This fix doesn't solve the problem of the py2app created relax app not >>>>> using the bundled Python version and internal Python modules, so some >>>>> users will still be affected by that. >>>> >>>> Yesterday when I was looking at this, I added a 'print sys.executable' to >>>> __boot__.py and got: >>>> >>>> 4/4/12 12:40:10.353 PM [0x0-0x18ac8ab].com.nmr-relax.relax: >>>> /nfs/programs/i386-mac/relax/1.3.14/relax.app/Contents/MacOS/python >>>> >>>> And it doesn't change regardless of what PythonExecutable or >>>> PyRunTimeLocation is set to in the Info.plist. So it appears that it is >>>> calling the correct binary, but the Contents/MacOS/python is just a binary >>>> wrapper for some other python? I suppose I should read the py2app docs at >>>> some point. >>> >>> The Contents/MacOS/python file is strange. It is not python, but a >>> wrapper to the real Python binary (with a capital P) located somewhere >>> else in the relax.app file hierarchy. From memory (I cannot find the >>> docs at the moment), this is a special file which suppresses the >>> prompt mode of Python and allows it interact properly as a Mac >>> application (with the menus, dock, etc.). >>> >>> I could be wrong, but the Mac Info.plist files seem to only be a front >>> to what is actually inside the app, so changing it does nothing. I >>> don't know why it is pointing to the wrong Python version, but this is >>> clearly a problem with the py2app script (or the relax setup.py >>> configuration file). The sys.executable print outs in the Mac Console >>> app should be correct though. I think I might now go and investigate >>> the wxPython install that comes with Xcode 3.2.6 using the 'file' >>> program. I wonder if these binaries are truly 'Universal'? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Edward >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:15:59 +0200 >>> From: "Edward d'Auvergne" <[email protected]> >>> To: Martin Ballaschk <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> Message-ID: >>> <caed9py_q1kaotn+stdzpjpd7hagje5tokubrjv8koqcs5w6...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Ok, that's great news. Using the 'open' command and forcing i386 will >>> allow the Python and Python modules bundled with the relax app to be >>> used rather than the system installed versions. I now know that I >>> have to go hunt down an Universal binary architecture problem. I have >>> a feeling that something that comes with Xcode 3.2.6 is not properly >>> set up as a Universal binary. But at least you can run relax by >>> forcing the machine architecture! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Edward >>> >>> >>> On 5 April 2012 15:47, Martin Ballaschk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Edward, >>>> >>>> On 05.04.2012, at 15:31, Edward d'Auvergne wrote: >>>> >>>>> Could I ask anyone who is >>>>> suffering from, or who can trigger, this TickCount problem if you >>>>> could check and see if the problem is now eliminated? >>>> >>>> Still failing here: >>>> >>>> $ open relax.app >>>> >>>> Console errors: >>>> 05.04.12 15:42:38,708 [0x0-0x625625].com.nmr-relax.relax: Please install >>>> the wx Python module to access the relax GUI. >>>> >>>> $ cd /Applications/relax.app/Contents/MacOS/ >>>> $ ./relax >>>> Please install the wx Python module to access the relax GUI. >>>> $ ./python >>>> python: posix_spawn: /Applications/relax.app/Contents/MacOS/python2.6: No >>>> such file or directory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But when forcing 32bit/i386 by using "arch" it works. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Martin Ballaschk >>>> AG Schmieder >>>> Leibniz-Institut f?r Molekulare Pharmakologie >>>> Robert-R?ssle-Str. 10 >>>> 13125 Berlin >>>> [email protected] >>>> Tel.: +49-30-94793-234/315 >>>> B?ro: A 1.26 >>>> Labor: C 1.10 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:31:51 -0400 >>> From: Ben Eisenbraun <[email protected]> >>> To: "Edward d'Auvergne" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Temperature calibration & relax @ Mac OS X 10.7.3 ?Lion? >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi Edward, >>> >>>> Is it worth having a 64-bit x86 version? >>> >>> Does relax need to access more than 4 GB of RAM per process/thread? I think >>> that's still the main deciding factor in the 32/64-bit choice. Apple claims >>> that 64-bit apps can see a 5-15% performance increase depending on workload >>> due to the extra general purpose CPU registers available in 64-bit mode. >>> *shrug* >>> >>> Among my user population, we have very few PPC users left. The stats from >>> our ~425 OS X users in March: >>> >>> https://developer.sbgrid.org/~bene/consortium-stats/four.html >>> https://developer.sbgrid.org/~bene/consortium-stats/five.html >>> >>> Given the current difficulties, my suggestion would be to simplify, >>> simplify, simplify. :-) Once you have a stable package that is working for >>> the most common platforms, i.e. OS X Intel 10.6/7, then add more options as >>> necessary to satisfy the corner cases. >>> >>> As an aside, the linux packages work great on every distro I've tested: >>> Red Hat/CentOS 5 and 6, Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.10, Debian 6, 32 and 64-bit for >>> all of them. >>> >>> -ben >>> >>> -- >>> | Ben Eisenbraun >>> | SBGrid Consortium | http://sbgrid.org | >>> | Harvard Medical School | http://hms.harvard.edu | >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> relax (http://www.nmr-relax.com) >>> >>> This is the relax-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >>> reminder, or change your subscription options, >>> visit the list information page at >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users >>> >>> End of relax-users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 12 >>> ******************************************* >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> relax (http://www.nmr-relax.com) >> >> This is the relax-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, get a password >> reminder, or change your subscription options, >> visit the list information page at >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users > _______________________________________________ relax (http://www.nmr-relax.com) This is the relax-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, visit the list information page at https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/relax-users
