On 2/17/20 11:08 PM, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 18 febbraio 2020 04:03:05 CET, Nate Graham ha scritto:

think KDE software should be presented to users. Basically, we
acknowledge that Neon is already an actual OS--the "KDE OS"--and we

Please don't suggest such downstream-hostile solutions, in particular because
this failing is entirely upstream. We have already plenty in FOSS, I don't
want KDE to be yet another community that "adopts" them.

"We messed up so let's make things our way" is not an acceptable approach.

Neon is already an OS, whether or not you want to admit it. It's installed from an ISO. A hardware vendor (Slimbook) is shipping it on laptops that people can and do buy. My wife has it installed on her computer. It's an OS as much as any other Ubuntu-derived distro can be considered an OS.

I actually happen to use openSUSE Tumbleweed myself instead of Neon for a variety of reasons, and I'm happy with it. I'm not saying "Neon is an OS!" because I think everyone should immediately switch to it and stop using other distros. There's room in the universe of KDE distros for one more that happens to be a first-party product--as evidenced by the fact that Neon has existed for four years and the whole world hasn't come tumbling down. I mean, Microsoft got into the PC hardware business in competition with Dell, HP, Toshiba, et al, and it didn't destroy their business. Far from it: the new entries from Microsoft spurred everyone else to improve their own offerings, broadly lifting the quality of PC hardware for everyone.

Nate

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