Hello ... 

Ken Arck wrote:
> 
> At 07:40 PM 4/27/2004 -0000, you wrote:
> >Is there any methods of tuning a set of duplexer without having a
> >Spectrum analyzer.  I am in the learning stages again.  I have an
> >IFR-500a, so I can generate a signal into them.  I know this would
> >work somewhat for the receive, but what does one do for the
> >transmit. 

  Long before I had access to a spectrum analyzer etc., I was tuning 
 duplexers ... many of them. 

  I used a signal generator, carefully tuned receivers on the 
 frequencies involved and double shielded coaxial jumpers. 

 
> <---Why wouldn't it work for transmit? As a matter of fact, it 
> would work just fine by both the receive AND transmit sides of the 
> duplexer. RF is RF, regardless if its -100 Dbm or +10 Dbm, right? 

  A correction here, in polite engineering lingo, a Decibel is one 
 tenth of a Bel, a persons name hence it is dB or here, dBm ... 
 

> Depending on what kind of duplexer is it (BP/BR or just BR) 
> determines the tuning procedure. You might want to check the 
> website to see if yours is listed. One thing though -  It's a good 
> idea to use a 3 db pad on the receiver you're using for tuning, 
> since you have no guarantee it will present a 50 ohm load to the 
> duplexer. 

  The absolute minimum I use is a 6 dB pad ... usually more like a 
 10 or 20 dB pad.  The higher the attenuation, the more closely 
 matched to the 50 ohm reference.  

 
> Oh, and don't forget to make sure a 50 ohm load is on the duplexer  
> port not currently being tuned as well (a 3 db pad would work here 
> as well). 

  Again, I prefer to use as a minimum here a 6 or 10 dB pad as a 
 termination.  A 3 dB pad will have a 6 dB return loss which is 
 insufficient for my tastes.  I prefer a higher return loss or, 
 better still, an actual 50 ohm termination. 

  I keep several Bird 50 ohm loads handy for various projects such 
 as the two 20 watt loads up to the 2500 watt water cooled load.  I 
 used to have a 10 KW water cooled load with a 3 inch flange 
 connector on it. 

  My shop bench RF coaxial hardware is based on the GR874 series of 
 adapters, attenuators and patch jumpers.  If I need to match a 
 445 MHz 50 ohm source to a unknown termination, I use a pair of 
 GR874 20 cm adjustable stubs connected via GR874 T connectors to 
 tune out the mismatch.  


> 
> Ken
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  73, 

  Neil McKie - WA6KLA





 
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