how about lower power ,   better hard line and a more gain DB antenna.

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From: "kf0m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Solid State VHF PAs (200+ watts of power)


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> Here is the situation with the repeater I maintain that runs 300W on TX.
> Repeater antennas are at 1300 ft feed through 3/4 in 75 ohm line.  The
> majority of the user base is 40 to 60 miles from the site. We have a 
> remote
> input about 60 miles from the repeater to provide HT and mobile coverage
> for where the majority of the users are.  With all the feedline loss and 
> the
> distance from the users, we need the 300W Tx power to provide good 
> coverage
> where the users are.
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> The repeater is also the primary skywarn repeater with wide area coverage 
> of
> the state and users need to be able to hear the repeater well in adverse
> weather conditions.
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> With 300W, I can hear the repeater from my house which is 50 miles from 
> the
> repeater and I can get into it on the HT with the rubber duck using 200 mw
> through the remote receiver.  With the repeater running 100W for TX, I can
> get into the repeater using the HT but can't hear it on the rubber duck.
>
> John Lock KF0M
> Wichita KS
> kf0m at arrl dot net
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Custer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:09 AM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Solid State VHF PAs (200+ watts of
>> power)
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>> RE:  Excessive power.
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>> Neil McKie wrote:
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>> >I can only wonder why the need for what seems to me is excessive power?
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>> Most folks will agree that a repeater that is working properly (no
>> desense) having a receiver sensitivity of .35 uV (- 116 dBm) for 12 dB
>> SINAD, and a transmitter power of 110 watts will likely be fairly well
>> matched in receive/transmit coverage considering a modern 50 watt mobile
>> rig.
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>> Now, lets add a receiver preamp on the repeater and increase its
>> sensitivity by say 6 dB to -122 dBm.  Considering the repeater still
>> operates properly, without desense, this same repeater would now require
>> 480 watts of transmitter power to be matched as above.
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>> That being said, 200 + watts of transmitter power doesn't seem to be
>> excessive to me, but it depends on what is there to hear the user.
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>> Kevin Custer
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