At 10:27 AM 11/30/04, you wrote:

>Mike, I thought there was some reference to a signal generated by the
>oscillator crystal in one receiver getting into the other receiver and
>causing a problem.

Maybe you are remembering the Cactus Radio writeup on Mitreks
where they mention that the 406-420 models have a problem when
duplexed with the RX multiplier getting into the TX multiplier and
creating spurs.

>I have not been able to find ref to it in a search of the messages.
>Perhaps it is only a concern if two receivers are operating on the
>very same frequency as with voting.

Even then you wouldn't have two voting RXs at the same site
in the same rack.

The nearest situation I know of to that is one site that has two
RXs in adjacent buildings - only because the hardware was
lying around, already crystaled up and on channel, and all it
took was the labor to install, and it cut the mobile flutter in half...)

>I understood there was a recommendation for using a high
>side crystal frequency in one receiver and a low side crystal
>frequency in the other.
>Might it have implied that the receivers might pick up the
>"wrong" input signal as interference?

Don't remember that....  Most well designed radios don't have
that much LO or injection leakage (as long as all of the shields
are in place)...

>Hardly any repeaters up here in the boonies are set up to
>use PL tones.  I see only one repeater in Nova Scotia is
>listed as requiring  PL tones.
>Perhaps our two repeaters should be the second and third! :-)

Not unless you have a problem that requires it.  Try it and see.

>I know were do have some problems at times where one
>repeaters output signal causes the other to come on.  But
>it only happens once in a while.

Probably a random mix....

>Just wanting to cover my bases!
>I appreciate any advice.

I'm sure that the list members will contribute.

>Bruce

Mike WA6ILQ


>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike WA6ILQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] need input on changing Mitrek oscillator
>crystal
>
> > At 02:52 PM 11/29/04, you wrote:
> >
> > >I have read a few comments in the past about the need for changing
> > >the crystal from one side of the operating frequency to the other in
> > >a Mitrek.
> > >I am not sure I will be wording this properly so please be patient.
> > >
> > >I will have two repeaters at the same site which are Mitrek
> > >conversions.
> > >One repeater is on 145.210 MHz (neg. offset) and the other repeater
> > >is on 147.240 (pos. offset).
> > >At present the 145.210 repeater is not a Mitrek but when I am
> > >finished the conversion it will be replaced by the second Mitrek.
> > >
> > >I would appreciate comments re experiences (ie problems) encountered
> > >if both receivers have the same frequency crystal.
> > >
> > >thanks
> > >
> > >Bruce, VE1II
> >
> > The standard 136-174Mhz Mitrek configuration uses high
> > side injection, with a 10.7 MHz IF.

As Neil pointed out, I had it wrong...  it's low side.

> > And remember, the 147.24 repeater will be listening
> > to 147.84, and the 145.21 repeater will be listening to
> > 144.61 - with over 3mhz of RX to RX separation I don't
> > see a problem at all.
> >
> > And if you are referring to the two repeaters being on
> > the same channel simultaneously, well, that's what
> > two different PL tones are for - set up repeater 1 on
> > tone A and repeater 2 on tone B.
> >
> > Or am I not understanding the question?
> >
> > Mike WA6ILQ





 
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