At 12/2/2004 05:37 PM, you wrote:

>His comments about "old farts" is probably technically accurate.  A
>large percentage of older hams (too large) will invite you over for an
>"807" and talk mighty talk about "the old days of radio" but they won't
>take ten minutes to solder a $30 tone board into their old [insert old
>2m rig here].

I'm in no way defending the carrier-access crowd, but just for the record: 
out here in SoCal the primary objection to 100% CTCSS on all 2 meter 
systems is that it makes it harder for travelers to "stumble across" 
repeaters.  Thanks to (more or less) standardized bandplans & auto repeater 
shifts in newer transceivers, one could just dial up frequencies & 
"kerchunk" until a repeater was found.  Now, unless the repeater is in use 
one would have to buzz through all 32 (or 37, does anyone use any of those 
in-between or above 203.5 Hz?) tones.  The consensus among the 2 meter 
crowd here is that there should be a few systems on 2 meters that remain in 
carrier access for just this reason to accomodate those passing through the 
area that didn't bring their repeater guide along.  All coordinations for 
new systems on all bands do require CTCSS.

I know that some areas have standardized "open" CTCSS tones that make it 
easy to find systems the old fashioned way (Rochester NY is a good example: 
just set your CTCSS to 110.9 & you're done).  Unfortunately SoCal is too 
densely populated to standardize on a single tone.

99.9% of the hams on VHF/UHF out here have CTCSS capability.  The remaining 
.01% probably stay on simplex.

Bob NO6B






 
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