Just a point the Metro-Comm system here on the east coast. The voice ID comes on and tells you the PL is 156.7 system wide. In the Philly PA area the standard tone is 131.8 so you can just have the voice or CW ID tell you the PL. A lot of the new radio's will scan for the PL and that is real neat. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Dengler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: CTCSS vs. carrier access (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks) > > At 12/2/2004 05:37 PM, you wrote: > > >His comments about "old farts" is probably technically accurate. A > >large percentage of older hams (too large) will invite you over for an > >"807" and talk mighty talk about "the old days of radio" but they won't > >take ten minutes to solder a $30 tone board into their old [insert old > >2m rig here]. > > I'm in no way defending the carrier-access crowd, but just for the record: > out here in SoCal the primary objection to 100% CTCSS on all 2 meter > systems is that it makes it harder for travelers to "stumble across" > repeaters. Thanks to (more or less) standardized bandplans & auto repeater > shifts in newer transceivers, one could just dial up frequencies & > "kerchunk" until a repeater was found. Now, unless the repeater is in use > one would have to buzz through all 32 (or 37, does anyone use any of those > in-between or above 203.5 Hz?) tones. The consensus among the 2 meter > crowd here is that there should be a few systems on 2 meters that remain in > carrier access for just this reason to accomodate those passing through the > area that didn't bring their repeater guide along. All coordinations for > new systems on all bands do require CTCSS. > > I know that some areas have standardized "open" CTCSS tones that make it > easy to find systems the old fashioned way (Rochester NY is a good example: > just set your CTCSS to 110.9 & you're done). Unfortunately SoCal is too > densely populated to standardize on a single tone. > > 99.9% of the hams on VHF/UHF out here have CTCSS capability. The remaining > .01% probably stay on simplex. > > Bob NO6B > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

