One of the worst RFI problems with the RC-850 is the terrible signal it
emits right on 29.600 Mhz. All RC_850 units have this problem..

It makes it almost impossible to run a 29.60 Mhz FM simplex radio on any
of the auxiliary ports. This RFI occurs about once every second or so
when the 8085 processor samples the telemetry inputs on the Voice
Response Telemetry board. 

I have been able to significantly reduce (but not totally eliminate)
this 29.600 Mhz signal by installing flat ribbon cable Ferrite RFI
suppressors on the large ribbon cable connecting the VRT board to the
Main board, and also on the ribbon cable exiting the VRT board to the
rear panel connector. I have also had to install a similar ferrite
suppressor on the cable connecting to the Analog connector on the rear
of our RC-850 units. The ferrite material used in all of these cases is
#43 Ferrox material. 

It is also imperative that you run the RC-850 from its own separate
power supply to isolate the +12 volt buss as much as possible from any
other radio equipment to keep the RFI to a minimum.


Ron 
WW8RR
Sawnee Mountain Repeater Group

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike WA6ILQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RC-850 madness


At 06:47 PM 12/6/04, you wrote:

>Been running an 850 here for 19 years with no trouble frim
>RFI.  Is this a new install?  Anything else recently changed
>with your repeater when it started?
>
>The electrolytic caps will dry out on the boards.  Seems like
>I heard this could cause problems, although we have not
>changed caps on our unit.

The 850 design uses a 15khz signal from the master
microprocessor clock, feeds it into an audio power amp (an
LM386 if I remember correctly) and then rectifies that to
make the negative power supply for the audio stages.  When
the caps dry out the negative buss gets 15khz power supply
ripple on it.

>I'm sure the day is fast approaching though....

Yep.  Use a scope to check the negative supply for 15khz
ripple.  If your TX has sufficient audio filtering you may have
the problem but just don't see it.

Every 850 gets it sooner or later - the caps mostly came
from the same vendor and in the same time period.
The worst case scenario is that the ripple rolls right
into the TX and creates spurs every 15khz up and
down a chunk of the band...

My solution is to simply shotgun the negative
supply - I replace every electrolytic, and once that
is done I think seriously about doing everything in
the positive supply as well.

Mike WA6ILQ  





 
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