Rod,

The idea here is to get as much vertical seperation as possible,  it doesnt
sound to me like you have enough seperation if both antennas are mouted to a
station master tube.  Also, the rule of thumb is, the more gain an antenna
has, the better vertical isolation you get.  Yagi's have good gain and
characteristically a huge null off the side, so if you mounted yours
vertically, you would get optimal isolation.  This explains the better
result with a yagi.  I would suggest more vertical seperation, at least 100
feet on VHF and at least 35 on UHF.  Also use good verticals with at least 6
dBi gain or so, this will help buy some more isolation.  If you dont have
the tower for it then I would suggest a duplexer, its much cheaper than the
tower would be.

Hope that helps,

Wade - KR7K


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Seperation


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> I am sure this has been asked before, but I did a search archive on
> the subject and came up with 0. I have a GR 300 repeater with no
> duplexer, so I need 2 antennas. I tried a Larson mobile antenna w/
> the ground radials as the receive antenna and the same for the tx
> antenna. These are mounted on a Station Master type antenna tube
> (the guts were pulled out because it was untunable for 2 meters).
> The rx ant at the top and the tx ant at the bottom, about 12' to 14'
> separation. The system would talk to it self. I removed the tx ant and
> replaced with a 4 ele yagi - works good. I need a omni ant for both
> rx and tx. I have an Isolator on the tx and a Bp cavity and a
> circulator on the rx. Why would it desense with one ant and not the
> other ant? I know the idea behind the yagi and the mobile ant. But
> they both have rf going vertical. I need to have minimal separation
> without it talking to it self. Your ideas? Thank you.
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