Joe, your very first stop should be here:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/geindex.html

be prepared to spend a few hours at least. This site is simply the 
very best place to get educated about amateur radio repeaters, 
period. Spend as much time as you need here to get a fundamental 
understanding of the subject. Then come back here and ask good 
questions to help you clarify issues/points.

- you'll need the MastrII mobile cable, remote, speaker and mike to 
get started, and yes, unless you want to butcher the lock (not 
recommended), get a key. I mostly use Robert Parker at CW Wolfe for 
my MastrII/Mitrek goodies. (see the repeater builder site for vendor 
info). Or you could get these in ebay - I think I saw a set for bid 
the other day. I have an extra MastrII set I'll give you if you want 
to pick up in Charleston SC - please do not ask me to ship, I just 
don't have the time right now.

- you'll need a good RF signal generator to get the radio retuned to 
6M. the HP 8640B's are a good choice, you can find them in the ~$300-
400 range sometimes on ebay. Here's one to look at, just do a search 
for others.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=25407&item=3868957492&rd=1&tc=photo

- repeaters are expensive. Expect at the very least to spend  $4-5k 
for a very simple building top site, more if you need to climb 
towers, etc. Actually, most of my money for a repeater goes into the 
controller, duplexer, feedline and antenna. The actual radio portion 
is only 15-20% of my cost.

- consider the Motorola Mitrek series transceiver. Smaller, more 
sensitive rx, and you can get them at give away prices.

- if you want to get serious abt building repeaters, you will need a 
good service monitor (a few more thousand dollars)

- consider 440 band as your first one, everything is smaller and a 
bit less $$ (ant, duplexer) and with the 5Mhz splits, a bit easier to 
set up. Yes, you don't get the same range, do get a bit better 
building penetration in urban areas.

- repeaters are fun, repeaters are tempermental, repeaters are 
expensive, repeaters are very frustrating at times.

good luck John/N4SJW



--- In [email protected], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello group,
> I have just purchased a GE Mastr II low band radio to start off my 
experimenting with some of the available commercial radios and the 
possibility of one day building a repeater on 2m or 440.  I am a 
tinkerer at heart and would rather build my own stuff than buy it so 
I'm hoping I will fit in here.  From what I have read, MAstr II's are 
as good a starting place as any and offer some good options for what 
you can do.  I am also looking at tinkering with a Motorola in the 
future, but for now it's a GE to start with.  Hope that was a good 
choice.
> 
> My goal at first is to get the thing operational on 52.525 to use 
simplex mobile.  This should give me some experience with the radio 
and its internal workings, tuning, and general operation.  I have 
purchased the bare radio on Ebay as you can see here: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3868675552
> I figure the $25 bucks is worth tinkering with it some.  Hopefully 
it has the ICOMs in it since it's locked.
> 
> Here's the questions I have:
> 1)Am I going to have to find a key before I can even check this 
thing out or is there a way to get inside without it?
> 2) I am on the lookout for a mike, cables, and control head for 
this thing now.  Are they all the same for the different Mastr II's 
like the VHF, UHF, low band or am I going to have to find one 
specifically for 50 MHz?
> 3) Where can I find more info about this whole ICOM thing?  I 
understand that they are housings for crystals, but can I just order 
the right crystals and replace them in these housings?  This whole 2C 
5C EC thing is confusing.  Maybe this will all make sense when I 
eventually get my hands on the radio.
> 
> Thanks guys, hope these aren't stupid questions.  As this is my 
first attempt at working with any "non ham" radio off the shelf I 
need a lot of help.  I did a search on this list for any info on the 
Mastr II and didn't come up with much specific info.  The repeater 
builder site has useful information, but some of it is over my head 
right now and assumes some general knowledge about some things that i 
just don't know yet.
> 
> Joe
> KG4WMP







 
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