> "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thing is, for the same amount of money, you can either 
> put together a Motorola or GE station conversion, or 
> just go out and buy a Kenwood TKR-850. 

This is probably true. But Hamtronics and others were 
selling turnkey repeater packages long before the surplus 
commerical radio conversion market heated up and before 
the major LMR Companies started being a lot more friendly 
to the Amateur Crowd. 

Now everyone is beating up on everyone else for a piece 
of the repeater pie. Global economics up against the guy 
in his garage or small radio shop back room converting 
surplus two way radios. 

> In either case, you will have a more reliable package, 
> and a MUCH cleaner transmitter, especially cleaner, 
> properly limited audio that won't splatter on to 
> adjacent channels. This has been a problem with all 
> made-for-amateur repeaters except for the Icom's. 
> They just can't seem to make clean transmitters.

I have have not found most made for Amateur (factory 
built) Radio Repeaters to be splatter generators and 
most have pretty good audio. All depends on the model 
and generation of production.  Original VHF Engineering 
2 meter TX strips I have here still have great audio 
and still make Part 90 commerical spectral requirements. 
Their receiver designs are no longer usable for most 
repeater applicataions, but their transmitters work 
just fine. One tx strip in a good bud box has been 
chugging along since the late 70's. 

> If you are getting in-cabinet desense from a Micor 
> mobile at any power level, there is something VERY 
> wrong. I've seen them function just fine at full 
> output, 100W+. (Not left at that power of course, 
> but desense isn't an issue.)

Might have been specific to the bare bones standard 
UHF Micor Mobile we used at the time.  The versions 
we had with the standard & duplex shield kit had 
minimal stray RF problems.  We didn't run the mobiles 
above 25 watts anyway, the heat sink wasn't rated 
for lock to talk operation.  

The mentioned micor mobile was a Gov Surplus unit. For 
some reason, Motorhead would sell bare bones radios 
for low bid prices by removing normal unit installed 
parts.  We used to joke about the engineers removing 
parts until the radio stopped working, then replace 
the last part pulled and ship the radio out. 

The Mitrek version of this bare bones radio was sold 
as a Motrek... same pc board, less parts.  "Great taste, 
less filling". 

> > There's no reason you can't run a Hamtronics repeater 
> > at a commercial site when all the homework is done 
> > properly. Their turnkey boxes are even FCC Type-Accepted.

> Not for part 90. 

Check your mic cord... I do believe they offer a 
Part 90 box.

> If I ever see one of those at a site, I will find out
> whose it is and raise hell. Especially if me or my 
> customer is having interference problems.
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL

Your above statement reads like you follow "The American 
Tower - way of doing business". Might be prudent to 
actually source a problem before one points a finger. 

cheers,
skipp 







 
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