I have a TLN-2419A which appears to be a test set. Can anyone tell me what it is for?
tom/W4OKW Tom Clarke VX-20 Ops Specialist/C-130 Pilot Wyle Laboratories, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice 301-757-3317 FAX 301-757-3330 Cell 301-904-2053 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 22:56 To: [email protected] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3453 There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz From: "Richard D. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2. E-mail response time - Yahoo's Reply From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3. Any info on programming and mods on these Relm radios From: "Ronnie & Steve Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4. Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5. DB 522-509 Duplexer Tuning Instructions Needed. From: "n9lv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6. Re: DB 522-509 Duplexer Tuning Instructions Needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7. Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: "Doug Zastrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8. Re: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9. RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: "Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10. Re: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: "Coy Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11. RE: repeater ant for 900 mhz From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12. Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 13. repeater ant for 900 mhz From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 14. RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15. Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz From: Mark Tomany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 16. GE Mastr II rack mount Help please UHF88b model From: "w7nikw7nik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 17. Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18. Re: GE Mastr II rack mount Help please UHF88b model From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 19. OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20. Re: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 21. RE: repeater ant for 900 mhz From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 22. RE: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 23. Re: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting From: mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24. Re: Dayton Hamvention Input Wanted. From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 25. Re: please any one can told me what is the usefull for the deviation in the repater ???? From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:14:21 -0500 From: "Richard D. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz Check with any tower owners in your area. Many have old paging antennas that were abandoned in place. I received mine free that way. 73 Rich WA8DBW http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:27 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz > What are the recommendations for a repeater antenna for 900? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:30:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E-mail response time - Yahoo's Reply I found this in my inbox this morning and figured the rest of you would like to know that there actually WAS a problem. If you're still having long response times, maybe you should complain a little bit too. Bob M. ===================================== Hello, Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail. We wanted to let you know that we've received your message, and more importantly we want to thank you for your patience. Yahoo! Customer Care is committed to answering your questions as quickly and accurately as possible. Please know that your email is important to us and we sincerely apologize for the delay in responding to your message. There was an issue that impacted a sub-set of Yahoo! Mail users, and you may have experienced latency while using Yahoo! Mail or even had a problem accessing or renaming your folders. These issues have been resolved. If you were not one of the users impacted by this specific issue, or if you are having other difficulties, please let us know. Describing in as much detail as possible the problem you are having, any steps you take leading up to it, how frequently it occurs, and the exact text of any error message you receive, will greatly help us to troubleshoot and provide a solution more quickly. Thanks again for using Yahoo! Mail. Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care. Regards, Stanley Yahoo! Customer Care __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:36:04 -0000 From: "Ronnie & Steve Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Any info on programming and mods on these Relm radios Anyone have any info on programming these radios? I aquired 2 radios with a repeater control set up as a repeater but not finding much info. There is some confusion because Relm has an older RMU45NB and then the newer version. I have the older version with a keypad on front. I tried the mod on the Relm group but it is not the same as mine. Thanks Steve N4YZA ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 8:07:20 -0500 From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz As someone else suggested, contact a paging company. Just be sure to test it, as some were used in combined transmitter situations and may have had 1000+ watts applied to them. Lightning damaged was also a problem. With paging companies folding and downsizing, you may even be able to find a new spare antenna. Where are you located? 73, Joe, K1ike ---- JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the recommendations for a repeater antenna for 900? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:51:45 -0000 From: "n9lv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: DB 522-509 Duplexer Tuning Instructions Needed. Would anyone by chance have a copy of the tuning instructions for this duplexer? Or at least a good guideline on how to tune them up. Thanks. Mathew ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:23:54 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DB 522-509 Duplexer Tuning Instructions Needed. At 13:51 11/20/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Would anyone by chance have a copy of the tuning instructions for this >duplexer? Or at least a good guideline on how to tune them up. > >Thanks. > >Mathew Mathew: Search the archives for messsage #s 30754, 30761 & 30773. I had to set one of these up a couple of years ago. Despite its external appearance, it's basically a 3 section duplexer with 2 resonators on the low pass/high reject side & 1 on the high pass/low reject side. I refer to each section as a "resonator" in my previous posting, hence the reference to a "4 x 2" configuration. What I did to make them usable was to add a single pass-notch cavity from a Motorola T-1504 duplexer to the high pass side. This resulted in both sides achieving better than 90 dB notch & ~0.85 dB insertion loss. Be sure to use a 1/4 or 3/4 wavelength cable between the extra cavity & the high pass port of the 522-509. Note that the above was absolutely necessary for me because all our SoCal systems are low in/high out. In your (reversed) case the lack of isolation burden is placed on your RX, so if you're not using a preamp you may be able to get away with only 48 dB of notch on the TX freq. I wouldn't recommend it though, as out in your foliage-rich mountain-deprived environment you're going to need all the sensitivity you can get & UHF GEs & Micors are deaf without a preamp. Bob NO6B ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:41:33 -0600 From: "Doug Zastrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Hello All, In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360 ft. guyed tower. Looking for anyone with real-world experience with Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction lighting. In the 18 month period following new installation all three red 'beacons' have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling transformer, trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube. In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in components *other* than the flash tube? Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less? What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red flash tubes been? FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash head. Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 months. Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to kill. TIA... Doug Zastrow [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:28:00 -0800 From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Doug, I hope your Ham club did not accept any responsibility for the operation or maintenance of the tower lighting, because some of the most severe fines and penalties are for failure to have the tower properly lighted. Fines of $10,000 per day have been levied for lighting violations, so you should avoid even the appearance of being responsible in any way for such equipment. That said, it is not normal for strobes to fail in such a short time. Although I have no experience with Flash Technology equipment, I do know that most strobes in continuous operation should last at least two years- if they are operated within their specifications. If too much power is dissipated in the flash tube, its lifetime will be profoundly curtailed. It is possible that the technician who installed the strobe equipment simply left the power setting at maximum. Contact the manufacturer for specific technical information. Information and links about the lighting requirements for towers can be found here: <http://www.fcc.gov/mb/policy/dtv/lighting.html> and the FAA Advisory Circular can be found here: <http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/736f762742f45ab9862569ee0077ef5e/$FILE/AC70-7460-1K.pdf> When a flashing beacon atop a tower fails, the FAA Flight Service Station must be notified immediately so that a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) may be published to warn pilots of the danger. The penalties for failure to report a tower light outage are severe, and the liabilities for an aircraft accident resulting from collision with an unlit tower can run into many millions of dollars. Most tower owners invest in automated monitoring systems that will send a pager and telephone notification to the responsible people and to a central alarm office when an outage occurs. If your tower does not have a monitoring system, someone should visually check at least once each day to ensure that the lights are working. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Doug Zastrow wrote: > Hello All, In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360 > ft. guyed tower. Looking for anyone with real-world experience with > Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction lighting. In > the 18 month period following new installation all three red 'beacons' > have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling transformer, > trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube. In red beacon failures > how often has trouble been in components *other* than the flash > tube? Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less? What > has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red flash > tubes been? FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping > cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash head. > Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 > months. Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to > kill. TIA... Doug Zastrow > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > + Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. > > + To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > + Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:59:40 -0600 From: "Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Early Flash Technology strobes had lots of trouble with the energy from the flash causing O2 to evolve into O3 that is highly corrosive and caused the socketed IC's on the controller board to make poor contact in the sockets - later on they added a vapor shield between the chamber that houses the tube and the housing for the electronics - Don't know much about shelf life, but suspect it should be years and not months, and also several years of service between failures. Sorry I am not much help, Steve NU5D _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Zastrow Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting Hello All, In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360 ft. guyed tower. Looking for anyone with real-world experience with Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction lighting. In the 18 month period following new installation all three red 'beacons' have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling transformer, trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube. In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in components *other* than the flash tube? Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less? What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red flash tubes been? FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash head. Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 months. Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to kill. TIA... Doug Zastrow _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Repeater-Builder <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:53:04 -0000 From: "Coy Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Also be wary of thoes who think "IF 50% power is good then 100% power is twice as good". --- In [email protected], "Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Early Flash Technology strobes had lots of trouble with the energy from the > flash causing O2 to evolve into O3 that is highly corrosive and caused the > socketed IC's on the controller board to make poor contact in the sockets - > later on they added a vapor shield between the chamber that houses the tube > and the housing for the electronics - Don't know much about shelf life, but > suspect it should be years and not months, and also several years of service > between failures. Sorry I am not much help, Steve NU5D > > > > > > _____ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Zastrow > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting > > > > Hello All, > > > > In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360 ft. guyed tower. > Looking for anyone with real-world experience with Flash Technology FH-324 > red/white flash tower obstruction lighting. > > > > In the 18 month period following new installation all three red 'beacons' > have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling transformer, trigger > transformer, RC network and flash tube. > > > > In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in components *other* than > the flash tube? > > > > Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less? > > > > What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red flash > tubes been? > > > > FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping cables at the Power > Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash head. Flash heads failed in > succession over a period of 4-5 months. > > > > Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to kill. > > > > TIA... > > > > > > Doug Zastrow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "Repeater-Builder > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder> " on the web. > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe> > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > _____ > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:54:47 -0600 From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: repeater ant for 900 mhz I have my transmit antenna up already thanks to the now defunct Link-Two Communications. They left me holding a bill for several thousand dollars in back rent on the tower. I do have their worthless paging transmitter here if anyone needs a 900 MHz paging base. I have to admit, this transmitter is one of their later models that was actually pretty good, they still sell them under a different name but still in League City, Texas. Guess I could High-grade the Amp and have 300 watts on one of my 900 MHz Ham frequencies! Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard D. Reese Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz Check with any tower owners in your area. Many have old paging antennas that were abandoned in place. I received mine free that way. 73 Rich WA8DBW http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN MACKEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:27 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz > What are the recommendations for a repeater antenna for 900? Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:02:13 -0600 From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz I am in Portland, Oregon. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:07:57 AM CST From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz > As someone else suggested, contact a paging company. Just be sure to test it, as some were used in combined transmitter situations and may have had 1000+ watts applied to them. Lightning damaged was also a problem. With paging companies folding and downsizing, you may even be able to find a new spare antenna. > > Where are you located? > > 73, Joe, K1ike > > ---- JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What are the recommendations for a repeater antenna for 900? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:06:22 -0600 From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: repeater ant for 900 mhz Does anyone have any working experience with the Comet KP-20 or the CFC-771? http://www.cometantenna.com/products.php?CatID=1&famID=5&childID=3 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:18:20 -0600 From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Doug, Join the Tower Pro group, it is not for Hams though. Ask any question you want about towers, no Ham stuff though, Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Zastrow Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting Hello All, In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360 ft. guyed tower. Looking for anyone with real-world experience with Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction lighting. In the 18 month period following new installation all three red 'beacons' have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling transformer, trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube. In red beacon failures how often has trouble been in components *other* than the flash tube? Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less? What has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red flash tubes been? FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash head. Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 months. Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to kill. TIA... Doug Zastrow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:52:38 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Tomany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz John, Did you notice that these are rated for 50W max?? They are also described as "access point" antennas - I assume that they are referring to computer-type WAN or something similar. Bandwidth is probably acceptable, but power handling would be my big question... Mark - N9WYS JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone have any working experience with the Comet KP-20 or the CFC-771? http://www.cometantenna.com/products.php?CatID=1&famID=5&childID=3 [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:47:35 -0000 From: "w7nikw7nik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: GE Mastr II rack mount Help please UHF88b model Hi I have GE mstrII rack mount uhf. AU88b last four of the model. I have read your web pages you stated that the ge pl ctss board does not transmit pl tone . On my system board I have a card that is (PL19D4172GIGG rev b with 110.9) . I hook up the controller per repeater builder web page. Works great as long as keep the GE stock controller card in with the repeat disabled. My problem is I would like to have a pl to be transmited. The recieve side works fine drops the voltage with the proper tone . I have the controller connected to RUS 0v-3.88v ,cas has 0v-9.8v just testing info for you . I would like to find out a way to remove the ge internal controller and have the pl for recieve and transmit . The external contoller does not have ctss option. I have the manual been reading don't want to put a jumper from decode output to exciter connection without some facts. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:31:46 -0600 From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: repeater ant for 900 mhz I printed the spec's, but hadn't had the time to actually sit down & look at them. I agree, with a 50 watt limit, that is dis-appointing. Also, I think Comet & Diamond over-rate thier antennas, so perhaps we should not count on putting more than about 25 watts into them. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:53:47 PM CST From: Mark Tomany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz > John, > > Did you notice that these are rated for 50W max?? They are also described as "access point" antennas - I assume that they are referring to computer-type WAN or something similar. Bandwidth is probably acceptable, but power handling would be my big question... > > Mark - N9WYS > > JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have any working experience with the Comet KP-20 or > the CFC-771? > > http://www.cometantenna.com/products.php?CatID=1&famID=5&childID=3 > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:34:54 -0800 From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GE Mastr II rack mount Help please UHF88b model At 03:47 PM 11/20/05, you wrote: >Hi >I have GE mstrII rack mount uhf. AU88b last four of the model. I have >read your web pages you stated that the ge pl ctss board does not >transmit pl tone . On my system board I have a card that is >(PL19D4172GIGG rev b with 110.9) . That number does not seem right. I'll bet that you have a 19D417261G6 board. >I hook up the controller per >repeater builder web page. Works great as long as keep the GE stock >controller card in with the repeat disabled. My problem is I would >like to have a pl to be transmited. The recieve side works fine drops >the voltage with the proper tone . I have the controller connected to >RUS 0v-3.88v ,cas has 0v-9.8v just testing info for you. >I would like to find out a way to remove the ge internal controller and >have the pl for recieve and transmit . The external contoller does not >have ctss option. Decode, encode, or both? >I have the manual been reading don't want to put a >jumper from decode output to exciter connection without some facts. The decode out signal is a logic level that feeds to the repeater controller. If you do have a 19D417261G6 board look at LBI4743 at <http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-master-list.html> According to that LBI your G6 card is a decode only version. To do what you want you will need to find an encode-decode version of the board you have (ending in G1, G2 or G5 - the G5 will do split tones), an encode-decoder model of a different board the 19D432500 is the dip switch board, and is covered in LBI-31056. The G1 board is the encode-decode board, the G2 is encode-only, G3 is decode-only. Or you can just add an external encoder. Several are available, or you can build your own - years ago, I made my own encoder from a simple one transistor twin-T oscillator with a one-transistor buffer amp. Using polystyrene caps and metal film resistors gave me an encoder that was stable from 30 degrees to 120 degrees F. Mike WA6ILQ [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:43:42 -0600 From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Doug and Eric, I will add a few points here, I own and run a 500 foot tall tower in Texas. I purchased a new TWR dual mode strobe system ($17,000.00) along with the tower. At the time it seemed to be a good choice, hindsight is 20-20. The first two years the red mode system never ran for more than 4 months at a time, TWR was at my site 7 times those first two years. They made one last trip at the two year mark, I have to admit they did all of these repairs to this point under a one-year warranty. At two years they reworked all the hatchplates and replaced all strobe tubes. The system ran for eleven months and went out again. The only problem I ever had was the red mode night strobes, the day mode worked fine so I let it run in the "fail-safe" mode because I did not have the money to fix the system. TWR had quoted me $1,500.00 per hatchplate to repair the system, that did not include the tower crew labor. After two years of running in the fail-safe mode the whole system crashed and burned. I could look up at the strobes and see what looked like flames, I shut the system down and turned in a "NOTAM", Notice to Airmen. About that time I asked the Tower Pro group what they thought of the system I had, not much good was said. I also found out that the white strobe fail-safe mode does not satisfy the FAA or FCC as to tower lights at night, I was actually in violation of the FAA rules! After several NOTAM's and several calls to TWR with quotes starting at $1,500.00 per hatchplate finally going down to $500.00 per hatchplate I gave up and got more advice from the Tower Pro group. They guided me and told me what I needed to look for. I had a tower guy come and remove all hatchplates and bring them down to the ground. Once on the ground it was obvious what was wrong, the cheap terminal strip used by TWR had completely burned up from the 600 volts positive and negative DC that made the system work. TWR sends up those two voltages plus a trigger voltage to fire the strobe. I ran the manufacture of the terminal strip down and their specifications said the strip was only good to 500 volts, you get the picture? Very poor design! I contacted a Tower light company in Tennessee called ITL, they had all of the aftermarket parts I needed to get the system back up at a price of $26.00 per hatchplate, again, get the picture? TWR has a tremendous markup on their parts! I sent the hatchplates back up the tower, the guy connected them and they have been running solid (knock wood) for almost two years now. One other thing, the tower lighting industry (TWR and Flash Tech) are trying to petition the FAA and FCC to make the use of Non-OEM parts in a tower lighting system a violation, sort of like Motorola tried to do back in the late 70's and early 80's. Motorola tried to get the FCC to make a rule that only Motorola parts could be used in the radios to keep them type accepted, that ploy did not work then and I hope it does not work now. Most private tower owners can't afford Flash Tech or TWR prices, not to mention their reliability. Like Eric said, be very careful, the way the rules are written, every licensee on the tower is liable for up to a $10.000.00 fine if the lights are not working properly. Also, be very careful with the red mode LED technology, the advertised 5 year warranties on these systems are not being backed by some of the companies that sell them. Kevin, sorry for the OT post but felt it was important. Paul WB5IDM -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting Doug, I hope your Ham club did not accept any responsibility for the operation or maintenance of the tower lighting, because some of the most severe fines and penalties are for failure to have the tower properly lighted. Fines of $10,000 per day have been levied for lighting violations, so you should avoid even the appearance of being responsible in any way for such equipment. That said, it is not normal for strobes to fail in such a short time. Although I have no experience with Flash Technology equipment, I do know that most strobes in continuous operation should last at least two years- if they are operated within their specifications. If too much power is dissipated in the flash tube, its lifetime will be profoundly curtailed. It is possible that the technician who installed the strobe equipment simply left the power setting at maximum. Contact the manufacturer for specific technical information. Information and links about the lighting requirements for towers can be found here: <http://www.fcc.gov/mb/policy/dtv/lighting.html> and the FAA Advisory Circular can be found here: <http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircula r.nsf/0/736f762742f45ab9862569ee0077ef5e/$FILE/AC70-7460-1K.pdf> When a flashing beacon atop a tower fails, the FAA Flight Service Station must be notified immediately so that a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) may be published to warn pilots of the danger. The penalties for failure to report a tower light outage are severe, and the liabilities for an aircraft accident resulting from collision with an unlit tower can run into many millions of dollars. Most tower owners invest in automated monitoring systems that will send a pager and telephone notification to the responsible people and to a central alarm office when an outage occurs. If your tower does not have a monitoring system, someone should visually check at least once each day to ensure that the lights are working. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Doug Zastrow wrote: > Hello All, In return for free tower space our ham club baby sits a 360 > ft. guyed tower. Looking for anyone with real-world experience with > Flash Technology FH-324 red/white flash tower obstruction lighting. In > the 18 month period following new installation all three red 'beacons' > have failed. Tower mounted flash heads have a coupling transformer, > trigger transformer, RC network and flash tube. In red beacon failures > how often has trouble been in components *other* than the flash > tube? Is it true red flash tube shelf-life is six months or less? What > has the real-world life expectancy (in operation) of the red flash > tubes been? FYI, trouble was isolated to the flash heads by swapping > cables at the Power Controllers. Trouble stayed with the flash head. > Flash heads failed in succession over a period of 4-5 > months. Moderator: If this is too far OT don't hesitate to > kill. TIA... Doug Zastrow > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > + Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. > > + To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > + Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:51:37 -0500 From: Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Paul Finch wrote: >I will add a few points here... big snip..... > >Kevin, sorry for the OT post but felt it was important. > Posts like these are not to be considered OT, as repeaters wouldn't be on the air without towers.... But, thanks for the consideration..... kuggie ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:51:17 -0600 From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: repeater ant for 900 mhz John and Group, We have been looking for a 146 MHz, 220 MHz and a 440 MHz tri band antenna for an installation here in our local fire station. Does anyone have any? So far we can't find anything. Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz Does anyone have any working experience with the Comet KP-20 or the CFC-771? http://www.cometantenna.com/products.php?CatID=1&famID=5&childID=3 Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:59:09 -0600 From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Thanks. I do understand the <big snip>, I did warn everybody...... Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: [Repeater-Builder] Flash Technology Tower Lighting Paul Finch wrote: >I will add a few points here... big snip..... > >Kevin, sorry for the OT post but felt it was important. > Posts like these are not to be considered OT, as repeaters wouldn't be on the air without towers.... But, thanks for the consideration..... kuggie Yahoo! Groups Links ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:41:22 -0500 From: mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT, long and boring-WAS RE: Flash Technology Tower Lighting Make sure you file comments if that happens and relay your experience with the poor reliability. I'm sure the FAA would prefer a reliable system over an OEM one. Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: > > One other thing, the tower lighting industry (TWR and Flash Tech) are trying > to petition the FAA and FCC to make the use of Non-OEM parts in a tower > lighting system a violation, sort of like Motorola tried to do back in the > late 70's and early 80's. Motorola tried to get the FCC to make a rule that > only Motorola parts could be used in the radios to keep them type accepted, > that ploy did not work then and I hope it does not work now. Most private > tower owners can't afford Flash Tech or TWR prices, not to mention their > reliability. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 24 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:52:00 -0500 From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Dayton Hamvention Input Wanted. skipp025 wrote: > Dayton Hamvention Input Wanted. > > My friend Tom is directly involved with the Dayton > Hamvention. His position in the 2006 year project > is more toward the public relations side. > > He has asked me to poll you folks for new ideas, > opinions and information for the 2006 Hamvention. > > The primary goal of this poll is to source ideas, > which will be used to make the whole Hamvention > event more attractive to non-hams... ie spouses > and persons not normally attending the Hamvention. > > The quesion is: "What would it take to get your > spouse to want to come to the Dayton Hamvention or > spend time in the Greater Dayton Area while you > attend the event?" > > We're looking for ideas regarding things we can offer > at the Hamvention and off site. One example might > be a special shuttle service to available local > shopping, tours of historical locations and culture. > A list of good pubs would work! ;c) Jim WD8CHL ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 25 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:55:47 -0500 From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: please any one can told me what is the usefull for the deviation in the repater ???? hussin reda wrote: > Please any one can told me what is the usefull for the deviation > in the repater ???? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > troll ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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