At 1/17/2006 12:17 PM, you wrote:
>For best performance you will need in the order of 120db isolation
>between TX and RX.

While more isolation is always better, 120 dB is a bit of overkill in most 
instances. 90-100 dB is a more reasonable value.

>   It generally takes a duplexer with 6 cans 3 on each
>side with a band pass, band reject mode of operation.  6 cans with
>notch only will not make the grade.

Notch only cavities are fine so long as your repeater isn't co-located with 
other comm. equipment.  If it is, a BpBr duplexer probably isn't enough; 
you should have a true pass cavity on the TX to keep other TXs from 
entering your TX & mixing, causing interference.  Same goes for the 
RX.  BpBr duplexers do help a bit with in-band rejection & generally have 
better isolation specs than notch-only cans, but offer no isolation once 
you get over 50-100 MHz away from their operating frequency.  And you do 
need the out-of-band rejection on a preamp, as many well-designed preamps 
are inherently broadband & will actually perform well at twice the design 
frequency!

>   Then do not go overboard on the
>gain.  Stay with something in the order of 7-10db with under 1 db noise
>figure.

Depending on the RX, 7-10 dB may not be quite enough.  A 0.4 uV RX with 7 
dB of low-noise gain in front of it will only drop down to 0.18 uV - still 
room for improvement.

Some of the better preamps available are designed specifically for moderate 
gain (~16 dB) to prevent overload problems.  See http://www.anglelinear.com 
for more info.

Bob NO6B






 
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