Dave,

The vast majority of duplexers will work pretty well with the cables close
to the right length.  After all, Sinclair offers only two cable harnesses
for their Q-202G BpBr duplexers- one for the 136-150 MHz split, and the
other for the 150-174 MHz split.  I may not have the splits correct, but I
do know that there are only two harnesses.

You can't simply cut the jumper cables to a certain fraction of the
wavelength, because the coupling loops inside the cans are part of the total
length.  It takes a network analyzer to determine the optimum length, and
most folks simply don't feel that it's necessary to go to that extreme.
When you order a duplexer from one of the major manufacturers, the bench
technician will select a jumper off a rack of jumpers that are arranged in
(usually) 1/4" increments.  He uses a network analyzer to measure the
insertion loss between two cans at a time, and then he will try a longer or
a shorter jumper until he finds the optimum.  Needless to say, he soon has a
list of "sweet" lengths to start with for each frequency, so it normally
takes only a few tries to get it on the nose.  It is still a "cut and try"
approach, but it works.

The typical spectrum analyzer works in transmission mode, and doesn't have
the extreme reflection sensitivity needed to properly tune for bandpass.  A
good spectrum analyzer with a return-loss bridge can probably be used in
place of a network analyzer for this task.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer retune / recoax


> The length of the jumper cables between the cans has a profound 
effect upon
> the insertion loss at the pass frequency, and relatively little 
effect upon
> the isolation at the notch frequency. 

Which brings up a fun question.. 
How do you know what the right length is, and where do you measure it 
from?

Or is this a cut and try thing? In that case, anyone know sources for 
bungee coax? :)







 
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