Not that I'm against you, but I can see some technical
reasons why it "could" cause a problem.

Elevator control systems are no longer just a wall of
clickety-clack relays with arcing contacts. They use
microprocessors and low-voltage signalling. Reasonably
strong RF could obscure the signals, or cause the
controllers to do strange things. Since elevators are
involved with public transportation and safety, you
don't want the thing opening doors between floors,
closing them on people, racing to the wrong floor,
etc. All of this is potential danger to the occupants,
and it could cause damage to the equipment.

Of course, there are plenty of radio systems located
in rooms separated from the elevator control equipment
by one sheet-rock wall, and that is, of course,
acceptable until they find out about it. Seems that if
they don't know it's there, then it won't cause a
problem.

I remember a repeater site back in the early 70s. It
was the 10th floor of a VA hospital. ALL the elevator
equipment (probably installed in the 1950s) was up
there: six motor-generators, six elevator traction
motors, cable-driven followers that told the control
system where the elevator was and how far it had moved
when it neared its destination, a wall-full (7 ft high
by 30 ft long) of 3-pole relays. Our equipment was
located in one corner and the antenna was 10 ft above
us. Not some place you wanted to go walking through
with the lights turned off. Talk about sparks - the
entire system used 120VDC on the relay contacts - and
carbon dust - those commutators and brushes put out a
lot of it. Somehow the repeater managed to survive the
environment. Luckily, the repeater never had any
effect on the elevator system. We always wanted to
hook up a remote "Call" button to the system though;
waiting for one of six elevators to decide which one
would "race" up to the 10th floor was always a thrill.

Bob M.
======
--- Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Best to cut your losses. Start talking about another
> location at the 
> building. If they won't, then the real reason is
> that they want you out 
> of there. I think there may be a code violation with
> it in the elevator 
> room, but you could check with your local building
> inspector to be sure. 
> But digging your heels in won't net good results.
> 
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jay Urish wrote:
> 
> >Justin W. Pauler wrote:
> >
> >Sounds like a whole wad of BS to me. I think
> someone is trying to kill 
> >your site. What does your lease say? Can they end
> it for whatever reason 
> >without notice and no penalty?
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hello Everyone...
> >>
> >>I got some news today regarding my repeater and
> I'm a little
> >>concerned... I think I'm getting the shaft on this
> deal.
> >>
> >>I signed a lease with a building to place an
> antenna on the roof and a
> >>repeater and cabinet inside of the elevator room
> for a said amount of
> >>money. About 6 months ago I completed the install
> and everything has
> >>been kosher since.
> >>
> >>Today I got a call from the Security manager
> asking me to meet up with
> >>him and the elevator maintenance man regarding a
> problem with my
> >>equipment. This meeting was very simple, I was
> asked to remove my
> >>equipment from the elevator room, not because it
> is causing problems,
> >>but because it has the potential to cause
> problems.
> >>
> >>I was told the following things:
> >>
> >>     440 Mhz is "too high" of a frequency to be in
> an elevator room
> >>
> >>     NFPA and the "elevator code" says that
> nothing can be stored inside
> >>     of an elevator room other than equipment
> directly relating to the operation
> >>     of the elevator system
> >>
> >>     Even if the unit is "just receiving", it is
> still building up
> >>"frequency" on the walls
> >>     of the room that will cause "bad things" to
> happen "eventually".
> >>
> >>While normally I would tell this fine maintenance
> man which door he
> >>could use on his way out, he is pulling rank and
> telling me that if
> >>the unit stays in the room longer than 1 month,
> his company will no
> >>longer be able to honor it's service contract with
> the building.
> >>So.... Sounds like I'm up a creek....
> >>
> >>The fact still remains though, I've never heard of
> NFPA specifying
> >>anything about elevator rooms and I've never heard
> of an "elevator
> >>code" (but that's not saying it isn't out there).
> I've also been in
> >>plenty of other elevator rooms in which radio
> frequency equipment was
> >>housed and transmitting sometimes in excess of 10
> times my power with
> >>no issues... Why is this becoming an issue with
> me?
> >>
> >>Any suggestions? Anyone know of a good
> "waterproof" cabinet that can
> >>go outside? Is that a good idea? Help.
> >>
> >>Justin
> >>
> >>--
> >>Justin W. Pauler
> >>Baton Rouge, LA

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