Many, many thanks, Bob! Some GREAT info all in one message. I really appreciate 
it. This gives me some great confidence building info. I am from the old school 
of just ordering some xtals from IC and tweaking it in! Guess those days are in 
the past!

Roger W5RD

>From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2006/11/17 Fri AM 09:30:07 CST
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 C85GFB5203AT, Type GFB

>                  
>The GFB is the 900 MHz Analog-Plus station. It is the
>same as the CXB Digital-Capable station except it does
>NOT support encryption of any kind. That's why they
>call it Analog-Plus. It should still have the
>three-digit red LED display window on the right side
>of the control tray. That means it's got a
>digital-capable control board - almost. It should take
>the same accessories and software as the CXB stations.
>
>You will need a computer, a RIB, a cable between the
>two, and one of two cables to go from the RIB to the
>station. You can plug into the front Control jack or
>the top expansion jack under the trap door. There are
>pinouts of these cables on another popular web site.
>And of course the appropriate programming software.
>
>Motorola is the main supplier of parts and manuals,
>but there are Motorola dealers around who can or might
>order parts for you. One is www.myradiomall.com and
>I've used them several times, especially for stuff
>Motorola won't sell to me directly. If you call
>Motorola, go to Parts ID first and get the current
>manual numbers. There's an installation manual and a
>separate service manual, but you won't get schematics
>of everything in the station.
>
>Bob M.
>======
>--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> OK, thanks Mike and Bob. I have been subscribed a
>> little while to the groups you are talking about. I
>> thought I would get some good info from you guys
>> that have a ton of experience on this type of
>> equipment. I just did not want to get spun off in
>> the wrong direction on this venture.
>> 
>> From what I have told you all, assuming I can get
>> the software or someone can help me, is this
>> repeater programmable thru the port I was
>> describing? 
>> 
>> Also, it seems like from reading about the part
>> number decode table, this is a “Analog Plus”
>> repeater. What does that mean?
>> 
>> I am anxious to get the manual for this. Is the main
>> Motorola number the best place to order the manual?
>> 
>> Roger W5RD
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> >From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Date: 2006/11/17 Fri AM 04:14:56 CST
>> >To: [email protected]
>> >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000
>> C85GFB5203AT, Type GFB
>> 
>> >                  
>> >I have had no problem using a Pentium2 850 MHz
>> laptop
>> >to program all of mine. They only communicate at
>> 1200
>> >baud, so computer speed should not be a problem
>> with
>> >this particular product line.
>> >
>> >As Mike said, you've got a few hours of enjoyable
>> >reading ahead of you. Be thankful that it'll take
>> you
>> >less time to read it than it took to write it.
>> >
>> >There is also an MSF5000 Yahoo Group.
>> >
>> >Bob M.
>> >======
>> >--- Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> At 08:20 PM 11/16/06, you wrote:
>> >> >I have bought a MSF5000 of the above type. It is
>> >> set up for
>> >> >939.4750/900.4750 MHz TX/Rx, trunking. I want to
>> >> use it with a CAT
>> >> >controller. I have not got the manual yet, but
>> will
>> >> order it soon. It
>> >> >looks to be in great shape and pegs my 100 watt
>> >> Bird when I toggle the
>> >> >transmitter. Is this repeater programmable via a
>> PC
>> >> or by some other
>> >> >method to get it tuned down to the ham band? On
>> a
>> >> little plastic lid on
>> >> >top of a box, this is written, which looks like
>> >> some software type:
>> >> >SSCB R05.40, TTRC R05.27, SMARTZONE, RSS R5.16
>> RQD
>> >> >
>> >> >I am totally ignorant of this type of repeater
>> >> technology and really
>> >> >don't have the energy to modify it myself. I am
>> >> looking for the right
>> >> >direction to go. I am in the DFW area (just east
>> of
>> >> Dallas).
>> >> >
>> >> >This repeater is eager to be hooked up to an
>> >> antenna up at 350 ft. in
>> >> >Dallas at our location (I-75 and I-635)!
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks in advance.
>> >> >
>> >> >W5RD, Roger
>> >> >145.43, 223.82, 224.18 MHz
>> >> >TIARC
>> >> 
>> >> I suggest that you go to the repeater-builder.com
>> >> web site, then
>> >> to the Moto page, then to the MSF page and absorb
>> >> the "Photo
>> >> Tour" article and the interfacing articles.
>> >> When you get the manual go through the
>> interfacing
>> >> articles as
>> >> you look over the schematics and see what he's
>> >> doing.
>> >> Once you determine that you can determine how to
>> >> interface
>> >> your own controller.
>> >> 
>> >> Major hint: you will want to program the MSF to
>> be a
>> >> dumb
>> >> duplex base, with no identifier. Let the
>> controller
>> >> do as much
>> >> as it can.
>> >> 
>> >> That one programs with a PC running RSS, and you
>> >> need a SLOW
>> >> computer - preferably a late 386 or early 486.
>> >> The RSS article on the repeater-builder Moto page
>> >> may also be
>> >> of interest.
>> >> 
>> >> Mike WA6ILQ
>
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Roger White
Murphy, Texas

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