Have you run your duplexer and antenna system successfully with another 
radio---i.e.., no desense etc.?

If yes---probably radio trouble.

If no----There are lots of possibilities

Check the duplexer first------Put a dummy load on in place of the antenna and 
an iso-tee in the receiver input feed. Set up a weak (threshold) signal into 
the receiver and turn the transmitter on and off. Does the transmitter desense 
the receiver-----It should not up to the maximum power that you are going to 
operate at. 

If it doesn't, you probably have antenna or antenna feedline trouble.

If it does, you have duplexer trouble---be sure that your jumper cables are all 
good..

Check the duplexer tuning first----common subject here. If you are satisfied 
that the unit is tuned properly and it's performance is adequate there is 
another possibility and it is bad news.

Is there a possibility that the duplexer pass band adjuster has been moved with 
transmitter power applied or has it been out of service for years and possibly 
damp? What can happen is that the typically silver to silver connection between 
the fixed  and movable parts of the center post have been burn't or corroded. 
The effect is the same----transmitter power results in rectification at the bad 
connection and wide band noise is produced and lots of it which puts enough 
energy on the receive frequency and desense  occurs----in spite of the duplexer 
looking perfect on all fancy instrumentation. The more transmitter power, the 
more noise and desense. And sometimes desense quits below some low power and 
everything works properly. 

How do I know about this? I have two Phelps-Dodge VHF duplexers that test 
perfectly that are unusable in repeater service.

Scott









  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tomnevue 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:25 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need VHF MSR2000 Repeater help


  I have 2 VHF MSR2000 Repeaters that I'm building up at the same 
  time. Both units have the same problem and I'm hoping someone with 
  MSR2000 experience can give me a suggestion on where to look next.

  I'm having a terrible time with receiver desensing, transmitter 
  hanging on and audio oscillations (intermittent/random growling). 
  I've been thru separate antennas, duplexer with better than 90dB 
  notch, separate antenna with duplexer + extra cavity. If I run the 
  duplexer antenna port into a dummy load, the problem is less but 
  still there. If I run the transmitter port directly into a dummy load 
  or if I turn the PA power down to about 4 watts (with 
  duplexer/antenna connected)the problem is gone. I've replaced the 
  repeater/duplexer jumpers with good double shielded coax and ground 
  strapped the repeater/duplexer cabinet together. I've made sure all 
  of the original repeater panels are in place. The problems exist with 
  the controller in place and also with a test connector replacing it.

  One of these was a full working repeater in public service use and 
  the other was a convertable base station. Both have the 110watt PA 
  that I am running at 50 watts. The controllers are NHRC-2 connected 
  to the Squelch Gate card using the procedure described by Skipp May. 
  The 12 inch interconnecting cables use shielded audio in/out cables 
  and COS/PTT wires are not shielded. The controllers are enclosed in 
  aluminum boxes. 

  HELP !!!

  Tom W2MN



   

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