I have been following this thread with some interest, because the
suggestions vary between relative extremes of cost. complexity, and
practicality.  As I understand the concept, the originator seeks to improve
his relationship with the site owner, and has offered to improve site
security and ease of access- two goals which can be mutually exclusive.

The commercial sites with which I am most familiar generally have three
barriers.  The first is a simple pipe gate at the head of the access road,
to keep out vehicles driven by sightseers.  It usually has multiple
padlocks, since the area may also be used by ranchers, oil people, and
forestry personnel.  This gate is strictly mechanical, and it won't keep out
hikers and mountain bikers.

The next barrier is a chain-link fence surrounding the site.  Sometimes
topped with barbed wire, it keeps out all but the most determined intruders.
Since the gate must allow a service truck to pass, it is usually
hand-operated and padlocked.  Electrically-operated gates are seldom used
here because of the climate and the amount of maintenance such gates
require.  The fence is intended to keep out vandals and mischief-makers.

The final barrier is the door to the radio shack, which is usually steel and
may have an electric lock with a keypad or proximity card sensor, but it may
just be padlocked.  The prox card with a keypad to accept the technician's
PIN is the most desirable, since any one user can be added or removed from
the access list at any time, often remotely, and there is a permanent record
of each person's comings and goings.

I recently priced an electrically-operated vehicle gate that was suitable
for a remote site, and found that it would cost about $80,000 to purchase
and install.  This is much more than a simple panel of fencing that rolls
back and forth in a track- it is equal in security to the fence itself, and
that makes a big difference!

My local police department uses a rolling gate to secure the back parking
lot where the cruisers and motorcycles are parked.  The gate can be opened
by the dispatcher, but it normally is opened by a "garage-door" transmitter
clipped to the visor in each vehicle.  The gate closes automatically a
minute or so after it is opened.  The lot is under video camera
surveillance, so anyone who climbs over the fence or the gate would be seen
and could be apprehended within seconds.  This is quite different from a
mountaintop site which might take hours to reach, and which probably is not
monitored with video cameras.  Such gates are the weak link in a security
fence, so they should be designed and built well.

Finally, I have to wonder how I would be improving my standing with a site
owner, if my proposal called for purchasing and installing unique radios,
microphones, cables, antennas, etc., in every vehicle in the fleet that
might need to go to a remote site.  That's a lot of dollars and manhours,
with relatively little value added.  I really like the padlock idea, but I
could live with the garage door opener concept- providing that there is an
existing gate operator.  Electric gates at mountaintop sites is a costly
solution, and the preventive maintenance can be a nightmare.  But hey, maybe
this site owner is a cost-no-object kind of guy...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Milt
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop
goodwill at a tower site(s)

Here's an easy idea that is currently in use. A police department wanted a 
way to open a garage door from the cruiser, other than calling the station 
and having them push a button. Solution was to take an old radio (Maxtrac 
in thsis case) laying around, install it into a metal box, bring out the 
PL/DPL decode indication to drive a relay and install at the site. No 
antenna on the radio, receive only. Programmed for an odd DPL on a low 
usage channel owned by the PD. Cars have a channel marked "DOOR". Cop 
pulls up to the door, switches to the DOOR channel and keys the mic. Door 
goes up. Nice quiet and painless. Something that any competent shp can 
easily accomplish.

Milt
N3LTQ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:k1ike_mail%40comcast.net> >
To: <[email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:03 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill 
at a tower site(s)

> Hello to All,
>
> I am starting to develop a future ham repeater relation with a tower 
> site(s) owner and recently got a request for something unusual. The 
> company has a fleet of VHF radio equipped vehicles. They want to pull up 
> to a site, enter a touch-tone sequence on the mike, and open a security 
> gate at the site. I could kludge together something, but would rather 
> find something commercially available. Anytime I have kludged something 
> together, I have ended up having to repair it for longer that I expected. 
> Something with a VHF receiver, TT decode and relay contact output would be

> great.
>
> Any ides if this is even made commercially? I know that some 
> fire/ambulance departments use a similar idea to open and close the 
> firehouse door. Some also have the ability to control traffic control 
> lights on their way to a situation.
>
> 73, Joe, k1ike


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