I like the key click idea - get an older CES phone patch with 5 key click
dialing - when the line goes off hook (on a local battery circuit with a
relay in series) let the loop current call in a relay to activate the door
opener - no security but kinda neat and it could time out after so many
seconds (I think) - best luck, Steve NU5D


On 5/27/07, skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Moving along...

There is a method/circuit found at airports where pilots tx click
radio mics in rapid sequence to turn on night-time runway lights.
It's not high security at a locked electric gate but it does work
if the secret can be kept under control.

And you wouldn't have to buy/supply dtmf mics.

As just a sidebar thought... you could set up a circuit for... say
3 rapid clicks and one or two long clicks to open the gate. I can
see that easily being done with some cmos d flip flop logic or a
small pic processor if you really were motivated.

>> It'll be much more secure than broadcasting tones over the
>> company frequency where someone could be listening. Also,
>> the garage door openers are short range so that there's
>> less chance of an accidental unlocking.

> They rejected this idea. They want to use the company radios,
> for some reason that I can't figure out.
> Joe

One other idea I just thought of is simply using a ctcss decoder with
a different ctcss on the same channel. No dtmf mic required...
just program a second same frequency - different ctcss encode into
radio and hit the mic tx button.  If you wanted an extra level of
security... make it (add) a 3 mic fixed time tx click detect circuit
to prevent any false ctcss circuit detects. Or a 3 to 5 second second
ctcss long detect-time requirement to fire the gate open controller
logic.

And... you could offer up the second ctcss decode remote access
control from a much more distant user/admin location (a selling
feature!) if you use a good receiver on a decent antenna.

The key-chain remote control system is probably the most practical
and cost effective secure choice for some empire building admin
(supervisor) type people . It's often sold by Jameco type places and
it's cheap enough.

The second ctcss & possible mic click detect circuit simply involves
programming a second channel into the user radio and some basic user
instruction. (a club to the side of the head until they get it right)

I haven't seen much of a generic commercial rough-service dtmf mic
that really gets my motor going.

cheers,
skipp

> Actually, they will have to replace all the mikes with TT mikes.
> Given the cost of the new mikes and special equipment at the
> electric gates, etc, it would be a lot cheaper to go with the
> garage door opener style system.  Maybe I'll work up an estimate
> of what they might spent for both systems and the economics
> might help them make a better choice.
> joe






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